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Does anyone out there have the Converse Engrg clutch cable info? I have automatic instructions, will gladly share, but I'd like to see how Converse worked out Ford manual trans. clutch cable operation. I know there was quite a bit of dis-satisfaction with their solution, but maybe there is something I can use.
Thanks in advance
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Wondering if the DVD of Converse installation I have covers this - I’ll check
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82 242-6.2L; '17 Mazda3; '16 Crosstrek
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I bought an unused, abandoned Converse kit from a guy in Chicago for an automatic 240 many years ago. Came with a bunch of other literature including directions for a 700 series swap and a fair amount of fuel injection/wiring info. Nothing in there for manual trans, though, except for a shopping list.
I haven't found a donor Mustang or Explorer/Mountaineer= either total junk, a million miles or way too $$$$$. Doing suspension and body in meantime as finances permit. each piece gets stripped, blasted, painted or powder coated as I go along. I'm retired and raising grandkids, so money for toys, (my toys, at least!), is tight
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Confirmed -- as we knew it would -- the auto video version is the one we have. If I can help with more detail or pictures let me know. Pretty sure mine uses the stock Volvo clutch cable with the "ball" (cable stop) attached so that the length works with the Ford/LS clutch arm.
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Yeah, I can confirm - in the Converse conversion, the cable is completely stock.
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Thx Greg! It looked stock to me - but I wasn’t sure.
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82 242-6.2L; '17 Mazda3; '16 Crosstrek
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Think I've confirmed that what I have is a 262C pedal assy and cable.
Talking to my friend who was with me when I bought the parts lot, I mentioned that the parts came from a maroon color 244 sitting in a field with 4 other Volvos and a half dozen other cars. "Don't you remember?" said my friend, " The guy said they came from the black car, the one with the funny roof" A 262C. "Remember, he wanted you to buy the interior?"
This explains the odd motor mount/bracket/cradle and the "slide-in" trans mount.
Was not aware there were so many differences between 242 & 262.
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Not that it really matters, but I thought that 260 models came with hydraulic clutch. I know some LHD 200 series had hydro clutches, and if it wasn't the 260s, then I have no idea which ones did.
But if you have a pedal that works with the cable, it doesn't really matter where it came from.
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My thinking was; Lots of talk here about failing clutch cables, what to do when I need to replace this oddball one?
BUT.... In trying to identify the pedal assy and cable, I've found some listings with photos for this cable with the "T" end. It appears that this cable, (and by inference, this pedal that is made for it), comes from a 1982, '83 and '84 240 DIESEL. So, replacements are available.
As for breakage at the "T" end, (reported in posts here), I'm going to attempt to make a nylon "sleeve" to fit over the "T" which will allow it to rotate a bit while in use. Posts here have said even with a good greasing, they still fail. maybe allowing for rotation will remedy this and maybe make operation a bit smoother.
If it doesn't work out, I'll swap in the pedal with the clevis for the cable. Posts report problems with this style too. Not enough clearance in the clevis to allow for full rotation causing the clevis to stress its' attachment to the inner cable and breaking. Maybe a longer clevis? I restore antique motorcycles, LOTS of playing with cables/ends. Lighter duty, but basics the same.
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posted by
someone claiming to be nortons
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Wed Jun 12 21:05 CST 2024 [ RELATED]
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Ok, so YEARS later, finally got back to work on 242/Ford T5 swap. On clutch cable- you MUST use Fox body bellhousing and shorter trans input on '94 SN95 Mustang 302, (trust me, you WILL NOT be able to shoehorn deeper bellhousing and longer trans input shaft from 1994/95 SN95 Mustang into a 240!!) I sourced earlier FOX BODY Mustang bellhousing and clutch fork from McCleod.
The ball end on the Volvo (for '84 Turbo) cable is just a bit too small for recess in clutch fork. Tried just flattening ball socket on spare clutch fork with a hammer to make opening a bit smaller, but kinda "Southern Engineering". So, used a 1/2 stainless acorn nut. Cut a slot along nut large enough for cable ball end to pass through and using a Dremel smoothed out inner of nut to allow ball to rest inside. On Volvo cable, screw plastic adjuster all the way up to plastic nut, (adds a bit of strength to threaded plastic sleeve), - pass cable through boss on Ford bell housing, place a large washer on threaded plastic shaft of cable, loosely screw on 2 14mmx1.5 locknuts, pass ball end of cable though clutch arm recess, push clutch arm toward front of car and slide modified acorn nut over ball end of cable with round head of acorn facing toward front against rear of clutch arm with ball end held captive inside acorn nut. I drilled through nut far enough back to fit a pin to hold cable captive inside nut. GREASE!!! Adjust cable free play with lock nuts against bell housing tab. Round end of acorn is good fit against recess in clutch arm, is pretty hard, so no wear issues. Cost $1.50- works great!!
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The Converse/Ford clutch cable arrangement has been in mine for 22 years -- working flawlessly first with a 5.0L Ford for 19 years, and the last 2 with an LS3. The clutch pedal/linkage end is completely stock as near as I can tell. On the other end, the Volvo plastic adjuster is present and there is a simple metal "ball" on the end of the cable. Works just fine with the Ford clutch arms. I used a stock fox body arm on the Ford motor; switched over to the slightly longer SN95 Stang arm when I moved to LS power as 1) the LS bell is larger diameter and this moves the cable attachment point out to a better alignment with the hole in the bell for the Volvo adjuster; and 2) the longer arm gives more leverage resulting in reasonable pedal pressure dealing with the bigger/stouter pressure plate assembly.
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