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Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

My neighbor is selling his '84.5 244 turbo intercooler. The car has been garaged all its life, and has only 143,000 miles on the odometer. He is asking $1500 for the car. I am seriously entertaining the idea of buying this car and fixing her up.

Issues: Clutch slips, throwout bearing is noisy. Rack leaks. Needs rear bushings (clunk, clunk). Has original POS plastic radiator. Blower motor is dead. Usual underhood wiring crapola.

I drove the car and it is FAST!! Low-end power isn't that great, but it hauls major ass on the highway. I floorboarded the throttle and she accelerated from about 60mph to 90 in no time at all. Great for passing those large tractor trailers on the interstate. ;-)

The turbo seems to be in good condition. It is the original, but this guy is very fastidious about maintenance and has records that show that he has changed the oil religiously every 3,000 miles since day one. I asked what kind of oil he uses and he said Mobil 1 10w30. I noticed that the engine had a "Puralator One" filter on it when I looked under the hood. Is this kind of mileage excessive for an original turbocharger? Will it drop dead in 10K miles? It doesn't make any weird noises or blow smoke out the tailpipe, but I'm still wary.

Does this sound like a good buy, overall? How much would it cost (roughly) to fix items mentioned if I did labor myself? How much life is left in the car?








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    Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

    Last time I checked, "Gapa" (www.gapa.com) had a clutch kit for $100.00 - included pressure plate, disc, TO bearing, and an alignment tool. I assume the quality is acceptable; if it is, that's a pretty good price (1 1/2 years ago I spent $200.00 on a 1974 Alfa GTV clutch set).

    I echo Don's sentiments: Absolutely replace the rear main seal when the transmission is off the engine. And you might want to consider replacing the 4th gear OD switch (maybe even the solenoid) at the same time.

    A question to the guys who have experience in removing an M46: Is it really that difficult? Recently I helped a friend replace his rear main seal on a 1986 244 that had an auto transmission. With a regular floor jack and some elbow grease, it wasn't too tough to get out at all - but maybe an M46 is more difficult?








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    Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

    Rob-

    Inside confession? The only thing that scares me is the blower motor. Clutch? Heavy but not brain surgery. Rack? Saturday AM project. Bushings? With the rear tool, POC. Wire harness, radiator? Normal repair.

    $1500 pretty sweet deal but a neighbor should let you save a few hundred...

    Maybe I'm getting old but that blower motor makes me ache just thinking about it.....NOT a 20°F and NOT a +85°F job.....and make sure anyone you really care about is out of town 2 days before, all during and 2 days after the job....








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      Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

      Paul: If we here in cactus land waited for the temp to fall below 85° we'd have about 72 hrs per year to do anything. Now 20° is another story. i rmn & etc.. Jim A.








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      Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

      Paul-

      Maybe I'm getting old, but NO Volvo repair is a 20F nor a +85F job!








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    Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

    The fact that the turbocharger is original may even be a plus - I've had bad experiences with poorly done rebuilds (even one I bought directly from Volvo). You can check it further by removing the intake duct and spinning the impeller - it should rotate freely and not have too much play. If it does need replacement after 18 years, count on breaking some exhaust manifold studs to remove it.

    Re. its useful life. If it's not rusty and you drive it 15K per year, it may outlive all of us!








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    Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

    Don and Lucas pretty much said it all. It will make a mechanic out of you and take a few thousand. BUT, try to find something faster and classier for that money!








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    Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

    Rob --

    "...How much would it cost roughly) to fix items mentioned if I did labor myself? How much life is left in the car?"

    The car sounds like some project work in store for you, but probably no hidden headaches. Much of the cost depends on what you're able or willing to invest in "sweat equity." That car could easily have another 200,000 miles before a major overhaul.

    The clutch job is the most serious repair you face. Not only is it expensive, it's hard physical labor—even with a transmission jack. BE SURE YOU REPLACE THE REAR MAIN SEAL at the same time you replace the clutch.

    The engine wiring harness is a royal pita, but something you can do yourself. The harness should cost around $200-250. You might find one on eBay for half that.

    "...this kind of mileage excessive for an original turbocharger?"

    Mobil 1 is a very good sign. Evidence of "idle time" is another good sign, but something you must ask him.

    "...the engine had a "Puralator One" filter on it..."

    It could be worse............ :)

    The rear bushing and blower motor replacement are classic 240 pita repairs. They have been discussed to death on the BB. One needs abundant patience, the other goes smoothly with the right tools.

    The drippy rack might be a seal replacement — a messy job best left to someone who doesn't mind it. Replacing the rack with a good rebuilt is a reasonable option. Rebuilts go for $200-250 from various BB advertisers, or maybe find a good used rack. The labor to replace is a Saturday morning job. Separating the rack from the steering column (and reconnecting the new rack) are tricky.

    Be sure to plan for alignment when you're done.

    If the car is $1,500 then plan to invest another $1,500.

    How's the rust situation?



    Don Foster (near Cape Cod, MA)








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    Re: Advice on a 244 turbo 200 84

    Rob

    Sounds like a sweet deal. That is a lot to fix up.

    I bought my 82 242 turbo for $3700. But the previous owner rebuilt the engine, installed new wiring harness, catalytic converter, windshield, turbo.

    THe car was babied by him, but was left outside in the Oregon rain.

    The car was not perfect either. I have repaired the sunroof since the gearbox and cables making awful noises, going ot have to replace door hinges, outside trim, got some minor electrical problems and fuel things to work out.

    Clutch: up to $300 depending on what type you get and if you install or mechanic does. U can get a Centerforce Dual Type II for a good price and that will hold up for a long time and more power if you modify the engine!

    Racks are spendy. Try Import Parts Specialities in Idaho. They have good prices on most anything Volvo. Also, search the net for Jorgen steering. (I still need to find that catalog)

    They sell racks and steering gears for almost every manufacturer.

    3 row Nissen brass radiator is $200 or more. Blower motor is the main thing. It takes so long to get to it is a main pain. I have personally not done it, but have heard many others complain on this board about it. Underhood wiring harness can be had on ebay used for $100 or so, or iPd new for $250

    Rear bushings need to be pressed in, or you could use some magic tools for replacing them that people have created.

    Turbos can last a long time. It all depends on how they were treated. Meaning, on engine startup was it allowed time to get good oil to the turbo and on shutdown allowed time for cooler oil/water to reciruclate and cool down the bearings. Turbos can last a long time with clean air and oil and proper warm-up/cool down.

    Total money to invest would probably be close to $1000-$1200, if you did most of the work.

    does it have any other electrical gremlins?

    To give you an idea. Since buying the 242 7 months ago, I have probably purchased $500-600 dollars of parts and perishables (fluids, belts).

    If I got any prices wrong, or other things, others more knowledgeable please correct me.

    hope it works out for you. the Turbo 240s RULE!

    take care

    happy holidays for you

    Luke

    82 242T 161K miles








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