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How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

I recently purchased a nice '85 245. The tail always seemed to me to be down as opposed to the nose. I installed new TAB & rear shocks. Still down a little. So what I did was buy two standard vulcanized rubber hockey pucks, shaved the down a 0.25 inch for a total height of 0.75 inches, drilled a hole the correct dia for the bolt that attaches the rubber support of the spring to the top, and installed it. Now it's perfectly level and has no drop even when loaded in the rear. Rides normal. Total cost, $4 + one skinned knuckle, but that's a given.

Hope this can help someone.








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    How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

    I'm surprised to hear that the TAB's didn't solve the issue.

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    How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

    What I did was remove the entire spring, the unbolted the upper rubber 'cone' the bolts to the upper portion of the frame rail. 3" is nice and wide/stable fitting. remove the shock absorber so the trailing arm can be pushed down to allow the bottom of the spring to be reinserted. Took me about 45min for the first side, and 30 for the second. 1 inch was a bit too high for my taste so I used a cutoff wheel to trim off 1/4 inch to make just right by my eye. I'll post some pick here soon.








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      How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

      I just thought about what you just posted.

      It makes sense to why you removed the 1/4 inch as that moves the bumper up or down quite a bit.

      Just using a rule of thumb anywhere from 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch more if you had left it.

      My thumb rule says its ratios.
      You take the distance measured from the axle to the bottom of the frame as the spring sits.
      Divided that into the length from the spring to the bumper.
      This will give you the multiplier to use against the thickness of movement.

      I estimated two or three times by just eyeballing!

      If my thumbs don't get me into trouble, my eyeballs will!
      You can, Just ask my wife! (:-)

      Phil








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      How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

      The slight tail down look is part of the design but mostly optical allusion due to the use of saloon rear door tops. Never actually seen a height of the front and rear of the roof listed though. Tail down after 20 pus years of being loaded within an inch of it's life won't have helped the rear springs so just replacing those is a good first move. There are various stiffness ratings, the softest being those used in conjunction with the Nivomat self levelling rear shocks. Did they fit those on USA spec cars? They are VERY expensive to replace, if you can even find them, but if you fit "normal" shocks the rear will then sit down at the back a bit. Comfortable though if you are normally 2 up and carry very little in the back. Your dog won't mind. As said, the stiffer shocks are best left to those who routinely carry 500lbs in the back or do a lot of towing. Will make for a rather uncomfortable journey if doing lots of miles with the stiff or full stiff springs.
      Fitting a full set of GLT front struts and springs will lower the front of the standard wagon and help to level it up a bit. GLT or turbo FRB a good move too.








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        How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

        All that is needed is the package of spring spacers(2 per spring place across and up from each other) and half inch drive socket to turn them into place re-used form the 140 I once owned now on my 240 no more sagging rear end.








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          How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

          Also, the rear wheel arches are lower than the front wheel arches on 240/260/140/160, helping with the rear end sage look.

          At the salvage yard, I found heaver wire rear springs from another 240 wagon. Swapped left to right and stuffed into the rear of my 199 240 DL wagon.








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    How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

    That sounds like a great idea for me to put away in my head.

    Just in case I need some material to machine up into something.

    The three inch diameter of any round stock is a nice size to have laying around a lathe or milling machine.

    Let me get this straight.

    The reason I ask is I have never notice how that setup works up in there. I changed out a set of TAB's to long ago to remember.

    I am totally lost as I thought the spring itself is larger than three inches.

    Did you put it between a steel cupped retainer for the spring and the frame with a bolt through it?

    Or is there a rubber cushion plate up there that the spring sits in?

    I have raised two cars, both sedans, the old fashioned way by using stiffer springs. Two sets came off of 245 wagons. One was a junkyard set.

    I Purchased a set of IPD's overloads to put back my personal wagon, that I stole one set from.

    They have a wee bit more stiffness than original wagon springs. I know this when the wagon is totally empty. An extra 50 to 100 pounds is perfect for around town.

    The IPD's were too harsh for my comfy and quieter sedans.
    My old neck didn't like the surprise hop, going over store front speed bumps.

    Your spacer idea is definitely a good way to come up with affordable spacers and keeping the ride comfy! I couldn't think of a material that I would put under there except rubber. Then where to get a chunk in my remote area.

    Does it isolate any noise? Can't say I have ever held one before.

    Did you cut the quarter inch off right away for a reason or tested it with the full inch first?

    Phil








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      How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

      The spring is 5" in diameter -- the metal cup (hat) it sits in accepts a rubber seat to isolate noise from the spring. The backside of the metal cup that sits against the chassis and has the hole for the bolt that holds it in place is about 3" in diameter. He put the puck between the backside of the spring hat and the chassis. I did the same thing with 1" aluminum - about 2.5" in diameter - to raise the back of mine which sat far too low with IPD sport springs.
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      82 242 5.0L; '10 Cayman S; '15 Honda Fit








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        How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

        I've done the same thing with a stack of Home Depot washers under the spring and longer graded bolts/nuts. 140 series cars that have a pigtail at both ends of the spring can upgrade to 240 springs by just installing the upper "cone" where the originals bolted. -- Dave








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      How I brought my 245 ride height to normal 200 1985

      I have used solid aluminum cylinders 3 x 1 1/4 inch thick under rear coil springs on a 240 sedan 1981. Worked well until it died with rust at 415k km.

      I have been using the same setup for 15 years on a 1982 but 1 inch thick instead. I now find it could be a little higher and I must say I have a fair size tool box and 30 lbs spare parts in the trunk.

      I use grade 5, 3/8 inch galvanized steel bolts, nuts that have nylon so they wont come loose. I use plenty of heavy grease to fill all the voids.

      Only bad thing with aluminum, it does corrode/flake on the trailing arm with time. Never had to remove it though.







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