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vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

Hi have a 72 145 (w/ carb conversion), Im getting vapor lock on hotter days during restarts. I end up mashing the gas pedal to the floor to restart.... Im told an inline check valve between the fuel filter & carb will prevent the new bad gas from evaporating causing a hot start situation on hot days. My question is: what is the best design, who sells the one we need? part number?

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    vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

    You are unlikely to have vapour lock. It's most likely to be flooding due to the fuel hose routing from the pump to carb, which is fairly unavoidable.

    If you have something like a downdraght Weber, you need a bleed from one side of pump back to the other. Later model DGV's have a 2nd hose attachment that bleeds off pressure as soon as the pump stops.

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    Three 164's, Two 144's, One 142 & a partridge in a pear tree.








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      vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

      flooding? Hmm that's the first time ive heard about this. have a fairly new IPD mechanical pump, fairly new (7 mo old) DGV weber & all newish eng bay fuel lines. brand new, but cheesy inline filter. I'll have my local Volvo guy check that out when I have him do some work soon.

      THX!








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        vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

        With a Weber, pumping the throttle squirts gas into the manifold making it over rich. When hot it should start without touching the pedal. Don't pump it and hope, you'll need to get rid of the excess gas before it will fire up. Pedal to the floor and wind it on the starter until it fires, then slowly come up off the pedal. SU's don't have an accelerator pump so don't suffer from this. Not to say they can't suffer from similar problems though.

        If you want to try a non return valve they are commonly used on boats with inboard engines so try your local marine supplier.








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          vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

          Question: wouldn't it flood out even if it's cold outside if that was the case (which it doesn't)?

          I found a good alum inline 1 lbs in & holds 20 lbs check valve for $16 on ebay...








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            vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

            Define "cold outside". I see you are in Florida, not usually somewhere that "cold" comes into the equation. Yes I know about frosts killing the orange crop.
            What sort of choke is on your carb? Some are manual, some are electric, some don't have any at all but have a variable system plumbed into the water lines and give some choke until the water warms up. If this is a recent conversion, has it ever worked properly?








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              vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

              If your logic proves correct, then my question is: why doesnt it flood in ANY temp range under 80 degrees outside? I have functioning manual pull choke. I also have coolant running thru base of intake (newish weber DGV carb setup). I don't ever have any hard hot start problem when outside temp is below about 78 deg.








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                vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

                Hmmm, interesting. The coolant system is actually more of a heater to help out the carb with cold starts. Alloy carb on alloy intake cools quickly but also is hard to warm up in the winter, or at temps closer to those frosty mornings. You might not need it there and your critical temp probably aligns with the coolant temp as controlled by the thermostat. Hot start means that the coolant temp tends to go up after you've switched off due to latent heat in the engine, so maybe the carb temp goes up with it. I think you have an electric temperature gauge so you wouldn't notice the rise in temp but if you had an Amazon you'd see it rise as the system is mechanical. After a hot fast run it can often rise up to the red for a while before dropping back down again.
                You could try popping off the pipes from the manifold and putting in a length of tube to by-pass the carb as a test. I think more people run without this system than with it. Hands up yes or no....








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                  vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

                  I installed a plastic cooling fan switched to move some of the hot air out and that took care of flooding/vapor locking problem on my 70 144








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                  vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

                  I installed an extra electric fan under the hood back in the day when I had the same issue. Switch activated and it worked very well. No more vaporlock or flooding








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    vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

    Haven't had a problem with vapor lock, but you may want to check a few things.
    How do you have your fuel line routed and which carbs do you have?
    Do you have the heat shields installed?
    How about the phenolic spacers?
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    "Differences of opinions should be tolerated, but not if they're too different' - Sharon Craig








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      vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

      fuel line is routed from newish mechanical IPD Pump up along front / left driver side of eng (where the small plastic filter is) looping around the back / top of eng to far side of newish DGV carb. tried to avoid hot side of eng. NO heat shield, but do have plastic spacer under base of carb. all fuel line in eng bay is less than 1 year old. I read somewhere that premium 93 octane should help prevent vapor lock (if that's the prob) also, ive been running 89 octane with lead substitute in every tankful, got tired of adjusting valves every few thousand miles. ...I do have a fair amount of weight in her all the time.








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        vapor lock fix (in line fuel check valve) 140-160

        Fuel line routing......

        Someone once told me that you want the line from the pump to the carb to only run up hill, and never have a situation where it has a high spot mid-point and then back down hill to the carb. They said this can exacerbate vapor locking.







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