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Revs slow to drop on upshift or throttle release 850

I have a '97 with manual trans I just bought. When upshifting, the revs hang for a few beats before they drop. This means smooth shifts aren't possible unless I do so very slowly. Also, when driving down the road and releasing the throttle, it takes about 2 seconds for the revs to drop and get some engine braking.

This kind of sucks because prior to replacing a faulty idle air control valve, upshifts were quick and smooth. I cleaned the throttle body (without removing) and made sure the throttle cable, etc were all working right. I even disconnected the battery for an hour in an attempt to reset the computer. Any ideas? Air leak? Normal behavior? (I don't think so)








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    Revs slow to drop on upshift or throttle release 850

    my T5R does the exact same thing. Really annoying between 1st-2nd, revs just dont want to drop down for a second or two. I have driven another T5R manual and this had the same feel. I put it down to this is how Volvos are in manuals??? I hope im wrong but i have resigned to it being a volvo manual trait.








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      Revs slow to drop on upshift or throttle release 850

      I actually had the opposite problem: revs would drop like a rock, especially between 1st to 2nd gear shifts. The result, for me, was a very intermittent engine stumble when I let off the clutch pedal during casual, around-town driving.

      I had been to the dealer several times about it. Each time, the mechanic was unable to replicate the stumbling problem when I went on a test drive with them. I was convinced that it was a programming problem, but at this point the car is out of warranty. (Be aware that my car uses the drive-by-wire, electronic throttle control system. Hence, my assumption about a programming problem.)

      Last week, I was considering IPD's ECU upgrade as a possible solution to this drivability problem. It would be an expensive way to fix a problem that may well have been designed into the car, but I thought it might save me the trouble and expense of trading up to a car that drives properly. While browsing IPD's site, I found this:

      http://www.ipdusa.com/pdf/wastegate_adjustment_94_02_turbo.pdf

      I tried it this weekend.

      Interestingly enough, my wastegate had the base setting at 3 psi, rather than the 1.5 psi that IPD thought that it would. But the adjustment is easy enough, so I tried kicking it up to 4.5 psi. This seems to have increased part throttle torque and responsiveness, and *I think* that I'm also seeing the revs drop more slowly than they used to. I haven't yet had one of those annoying engine stumbles, although it's a little too soon to be sure that it's gone. (Fix on Saturday -- it's Monday as I write this.) But the wastegate adjustment seems to affect the rev drop between shifts as a by-product of the base-boost level.

      I bring all of this up to encourage you to try a similar adjustment. Get a pressure gauge and a hand-pump -- a "Mityvac" hand-pump works well for this, see http://www.mityvac.com/ -- and get a baseline measurement for your current wastegate "base setting." If it's up considerably higher than the 1.5 psi that IPD says it should be, or the 3 psi that I found as a base setting, then try LOWERING it with the locknut and adjuster. Hopefully, it will have the opposite effect of what I was after (and may have attained).

      Good luck with it. Please let the forum know if this helped, because you're not the first ones to post about such problems.
      --
      Jim Rothe, '99 S70 T5M,
      http://www.jimrothe.com/volvo/index.html








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        No turbo on mine. 850








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          No turbo on mine. 850

          Aaaaahhhh... well, that certainly limits the range of adjustability then, doesn't it? :)

          I don't know that intake system, but an older Bosch L-Jetronic system that I get to play with from time to time has a device called a dashpot. Basically, it's a shock-absorber for the throttle plates, and it's adjustable. Any chance that there's a similar device on your normally-aspirated car?


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          Jim Rothe, '99 S70 T5M,
          http://www.jimrothe.com/volvo/index.html








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            No turbo on mine. 850

            Nothing like that on mine. I think it is Motronic. There is a non-adjustable throttle position sensor in the throttle body and the idle air control valve, also non-adjustable. I may put the bad idle air control valve back in and see if all of a sudden I have smooth upshifts with no 2 second wait before the revs drop.







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