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Front end work V70-XC70 2004

I have a 2004 V70 2.5 with a loose feeling front end. Past work front end work includes: Front struts and strut mounts at 125K miles / steering rack inner and out tie rod ends at 138K miles. As far as I know the car is on its original control arm and anti sway bars. Currently the car has 175K miles on it and I would like to keep it on the road for another year or so. I plan on installing new control arms and anti sway bars. Front shocks and steering feels ok. So I am assuming that those parts are still ok. Any opinions based on your experience would be appreciated.








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    Front end work V70-XC70 2004

    Pulled the control arms and ball joints this morning. Control arms were both completely trash, Both ball joints connected to the control arm had torn boots and show movement. Also both dust sealing rings were also worn and need to be replaced. The boot on the driver side tie rod was torn. But all ball joints on tire rod and sway bars were good.








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      Front end work V70-XC70 2004

      Hi,

      What a shame to have that much front end trouble within those three mileages mentioned.
      The major joint materials and control arms must be made soft as butter in strength or wear resistance.

      How were the controls arms trashed? Were they bent or twisted or nearly rusted to dust?

      I have heard of strut mount bearings going bad really early on Hyundai SUVs.
      The one lady that I was talking to probably was a grandma. I doubt getting off the highways wouldn’t have set well with her bones.
      She had around 80,000 plus on her vehicle at the time and this was about six- eight years ago, so, 2012-15? I knew early on they had lots of electrical issues.
      She loved the car so she spilled out the bucks this time but I could tell she had owned American cars before in her lifetime. In the back of her mind the 100,000 mile syndrome was alive.

      I see this is a 2004 vehicle.
      Hyundai is Korean and Volvo is part Chinese today, so I guess many cars manufacturers from there are swimming the waters in between with snorkel masks.
      Not above any high water marks of the past.

      One should expect a new manufacturer breaking into the market to have some issues as I know Hyundai had lots of electrical issues in the beginning.
      Volvo should have a higher standard of reputation already built in and not into becoming a follower.

      Todays Volvos are being rated higher in maintenance cost than of equal class vehicles.
      Reputation still counts!
      Maybe that why Volvo is talking dropping ICE’s and going electric to have fewer parts issues.

      Just read on here that a rear view mirror can keep a car from locking and in locking with the key FOB.

      My mobile windshield glass installer told me that on some models of BMW they have a rain or darkness sensor connection right onto the windshield. He saw a connector ion the old window but knew nothing about it. Maybe it was an antenna?
      BMW’s windshield are way more expensive. This he found out when he installed a customers personally purchased windshield.
      The customer later went to drive the car at night.
      The car HAS TO HAVE that connection for the main headlights to turn on at night.
      More like safety lights for garage door openers. They need power in order for it to send a radio signal to the opener motor.

      He said he hated it, but he had to charge him to then put in the correct windshield.
      He also said, that Some windshields that have to be calibrated for the cameras used for navigation, sleepy alarms and so forth. He is too old to invest in that equipment.

      It can be up to a additional $400 dealer fee.

      So beware as you get the bugs chased out of this car.
      Going newer or different could even be worse?

      Phil













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    Front end work V70-XC70 2004

    Do you feel the looseness when going over bumps? At that mileage the ball joints are most likely toast. Perhaps the the control arm bushings too. So replacing the control arm is a good idea.

    Do you also hear any banging going over bumps? That could be bad sway bushings. Not sure about your car, but on older Volvos you could replace just the bushings or sway bar end links and not the whole bar. They wear out first. If you hear banging it is a good idea to also check your outer tie rod ends. I know you replaced them earlier, but for safety’s sake check them to be sure.

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    Will I buy another Volvo??? We'll see....








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      Front end work V70-XC70 2004

      There is no clear knocking at all in the front end. It is more a loose feeling when braking, steering, accelerating etc. Will start with control arms and ball joints and anti sway bars. No suspensions bouncing or noise over bumps. I am assuming that inner outer control arms and struts and strut mounts are good. Will see once I get into it. Thanks








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        Front end work V70-XC70 2004

        Hi,

        50K on your strut mounts, it's time to check them.
        Beware of junky Chinese front end parts.
        Put the front up on a pair of jack stands and you can find slop in the steering
        quickly. Ball joints, bad sway bar end links, and also the steering U-joints
        might act up. I wasn't overwhelmed with IPD sway bars in the 850.
        Replace worn sway bar bushings first.

        After all looks OK to you, find out where the local euro auto garages send their cars for alignment and get your car aligned there. Do this after you replace beat tires and maybe dented rims.

        Good luck, Bill








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        Front end work V70-XC70 2004

        Hi,

        You need to affirm what you are calling a loose feeling front end. Describe how you are obtaining the feeling through what senses.
        I can think my cars are quiet because I have bad hearing and my hearing aids don’t give me all the right sounds or I’m just deaf. Without hearings aids I barely hear sounds above 5,000 hertz. Totally dead at 8,000 HZ.

        You might have a power steering pump that has a stuck pressure regulator valve inside. Too much pressure at speeds above parking the car will feel very light in a sense of no feed back in the steering wheel. You don’t realize that it should have almost the same resistance as parking the car.
        It would make for an unnerving feel of control.

        The mileage stated appears to be very low to me, unless the car has been damaged in some way or another.

        If the car is not holding the direction that you are wanting to steer into accurately, then it’s an alignment problem, not any worn parts that you just replaced.

        If the back ends wheels is not truly straight with the tracking alignment of the front end, then the car may feel like the back end is try to pass or go around you.
        This is noticed while doing all of those things you mentioned in your post.
        Jeeps suffer this phenomenon quite often. They are not tanks or boats.

        If you got the car used it may have been run into a short depth ditch that has twisted the body some.
        This can be but cause no exterior damage to warrant a report on the work.
        CarFax’s will only work “if reported.”
        It’s their advertised disclaimer hidden subliminally in the wordings.
        A cute cartoon character, not a real person, that can be caught deceiving by body language of the eyes or voice tones.

        You may need the car placed on a frame straighter to measure it out and they can pulled it back into factory specifications.

        Start with the small things first like a power steering pressure test. Maybe the fluid is really dirty and trash is in there.

        Phil







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