Yes Greg,

The XL lights are large. They were OK but large when my car was stock

height but once I lowered my car they were too big to keep. I bought a set

of the compact ZKW fogs from IPD. I would use the XL lights above the

bumper next time. They specify that location as the ideal one in their

instructions but under the bumper still gave me a good improvement in

lighting. Now that I have real fogs I can really see the difference the

fogs have a very wide beam that goes under the fog. The XLs have a wide

beam but not as wide as the fogs but they do have much more distance.

I really like them alot and I'm thinking about using them again only

up top where they are best. I did have to be careful when they were under the bumper. Have a nice holiday.

Dave 82 242ti