hi peppa- thanks for the compliment. even aunt flossie told me to use the term frugal or impecunious instead since it is more politically correct and nancy would approve. agree with you pep, there are a few gems but they are as rare as ways to beat the draft were back in 68. better to develop strategies and alternative routes to repair automobiles, appliances, etc your self or else go to the cleaners and get clipped. shysters never sleep. just yesterday had to replace a front directional signal bulb. asked a crumb at my gas station and he said he would only charge me $35 to do it. bought 2 3457 bulbs at auto z for 7.49 and did it myself in 5 minutes . only down side was had to be careful not to shred my hands getting in there behind the headlights. is that being a cheap bastid or not? thanks tons oldduke