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Morning start trouble 200 1985

I have an '85 240 DL and recently I've been having trouble starting it at least one morning of every week. I'll try cranking it until the battery starts to drain and give up. Then in the afternoon, it fires right up like it's brand new.

I live in Southern California, so it's not like it's freezing cold in the morning, but temperature seems to paly a part. Any ideas, folks? Thanks in advance.








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    Morning start trouble 200 1985

    I would try wiping the ignition wires with some dry paper towels in the AM before starting. Also wipe the top of the coil and the dist. cap. If the air where you are at is humid, the ignition wires (spark plug wires) can bleed off especially if they are old, worn or cheap ignition wires.

    Also, your ignition coil might be weak.








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    Morning start trouble 200 1985

    Thanks for the responses, guys. However, nothing seems to explain why it starts right up and runs perfectly in the afternoon. If its vacuum leaks, bad connections, improper amp pull, fuel pumps, etc. wouldn't the problem be more persistant? Why is it just a morning sickness?








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      Morning start trouble 200 1985

      ".. nothing seems to explain why it starts right up and runs perfectly in the afternoon.

      Damp wires etc, dry out by afternoon, baking under the hood???
      --
      Bruce Young
      '93 940-NA (current) — 240s (one V8) — 140s — 122s — since '63.








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      Morning start trouble 200 1985

      Hi Ryan,

      Condensation comes to mind. Try cleaning the inside of the distributor cap using WD 40 to drive out moisture. Then examine and clean the 25 amp F.I. fuse under the hood near the battery. Also, check the Ignition coil connections for tightness, corrosion, and give the wire snap connectors to the coil a check. These three areas have given me problems in the past.

      Best of luck,

      Tony








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        Bingo! 200 1985

        Looks like Tony is the winner on this one!

        It was raining an a bit cold when I left the office this evening and the darn car wouldn't start. I got it going a couple of times but it stalled out as soon as I let off the gas. Then it wouldn't turn over at all and I started getting that battery drain sound again.

        I went back in the office and read Tony's post. I grabbed some WD40 and cleaned both the male and female connectors on the 25AMP fuse between the battery and the coil. After that, she started right up on the first try and kept running. I even dared to turn it off and try again, and again it gave me no trouble.

        I hope this is the fix I've been looking for. I knew it was something simple, but I didn't think it would be such an easy fix! I'll keep my fingers crossed and see how it behaves in the morning.

        I love this site! It's saved me so much money over the years, I'm definately going to contribute some tip money.

        Thanks, Tony, and everyone else who responded. All good tips to keep in mind the next time something goes wrong!








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    Morning start trouble 200 1985

    How's your wire harness? If it's showing signs of insulation rot, that could be a problem. Not sure if your car comes with the Hall sensor in the distributor or the crank position sensor on the bellhousing, those can be sources of trouble. But start with the basics when it won't start: spark? fuel?
    --
    '81 GLT 245 @ 259K; '83 DL 175K








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    Morning start trouble 200 1985

    You may want to check the amp draw on the 2 fuel pumps both the exterior pump at fuse # 6 and the in-tank pump at fuse # 4. While the car is running,take the fuse out and place the amp meter leads on the metal fuse holders to read the amp draw on each one. Start the car 1st to build up a little fuel line pressure so the car will run while you get the leads onto the fuse holders connections. The correct readings for the in tank pump should be 1-2 amps for in tank pump and 9.5 amps for the main exterior pump for the K-Jet system. 3-4 amps for the in-tank pump and 6.5 amps for the main exterior pump in th LH-Jet system. If you have a Bently 240 Repair Manual (VERY WORTH THE INVESTIMENT) you can read further about the procedures.

    One other thing I did to clean up a starting problem was to put a full bottle of "RED LINE" Fuel Injector Cleaner in a full tank of gas. It really worked!! and is worth a try.

    Bill N. Hartford, WI








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    Morning start trouble 200 1985

    I had a similar problem recently, and found may useful threads on this BBS.

    With so many sensors/switches and the 'knitted' vacuum tubes, it's a good idea to start by checking all the rubber elbow and T connectors on the tubes - as they deteriorate and split, then check all the electrical connections to the fuel system / sensors for a good connection - just moving them about might cure the problem.

    Then start the diagnostics described elsewhere on brickboard - AMM, fuel valve etc etc.

    Happy hunting








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    Morning start trouble 200 1985

    "cranking it until the battery starts to drain " On relative cold mornings, your battery may not have the reserve it needs. Have it tested, it may be time for a new one.

    Klaus
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    98 V70Rawd(108Kmi), 95 854T(88K mi), 75 164E(173K mi)







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