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Some Fog Lamp Info for the 164E 140-160

Like most newbie’s, the first thing that I noticed about Betty was the oddly placed mini grills. My first assumption was that they were some "high performance" air intakes. After a quick look I realized that they were not, I'm a chump and the honk was revealed. Well after some digging, again like most newbie’s, I found some Euro models with the fog lamp inserts and immediately wanted them. Coincidentally that same day, I saw a set on Ebay. But these were different from the dealer photos, in Great Britain and way too much for me (final bid 186 pounds).
So I now submit a list for all new comers and for the good of mother Sweden.

Lucas made an after market version of the fog lamp inserts. They're easy to spot because they actually protrude from the hole with a chrome collar and the lamp is slightly Frenched. They were only made for a few years and are extremely hard to find.
As noted in one of the previous posts, the actual fog lamp option was not perfect. The seals were not watertight and a lot of rust was prone to the inner ring. This makes it easy to see if your 164E was originally equipped with fog lamps (if you can't decode the chassis plate). The lamps were also prone to cracking due to a lack of mountable covers for daytime use. Giving the lamps and your pocketbook too much exposure.
Also noted in a previous post, Hella makes a 5468 lamp that can fit, but takes a little arts and crafts to make it solid.
Aardvark International had this to say about a Cibie replacement:

Hello,
Thanks for your E-mail. You may want to check the dimensions of the model called the Tango (shown on our website). I believe this may be a good fit.
If you have any other questions or would like to place an order, please
let us know. I would be pleased to assist you personally.

Best Regards,
Gunther Hansele
562 699-8887 tel.
http://cibieusa.com
aardvark international
Talbot & Co. / Cibie USA

Gunther also noted that Volvo was famous for coveting patent rights and that this created a closed aftermarket.

I will be bumper mounting a set of Cibie 300FF's unless I find a suitable OS set. I've seen plenty of photos with them mounted and I think it looks good.








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    Some Fog Lamp Info for the 164E 140-160

    I have a box of these fog lights that I've collected from wrecks here in Australia. The glass is all good but they have rusty reflectors. Anyone know an easy way of replacing the reflectors ?








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    Some Fog Lamp Info for the 164E 140-160

    American spec cars did not come with fog lights, just the rest of the world. The undermount fogs would be great, less refraction and you could get 100K candle power. Cheaper too :)

    Klaus
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    98 V70Rawd(108Kmi), 95 854T(88K mi), 75 164E(173K mi)








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    I am fortunate for a few reasons. First, I live in Arizona where rust is not a huge issue. I am currently restoring a 1975 164E and it is nearly complete. I have a fabulous new leather interior, have spent over $4500 on maintenance, ie, new injectors, new AC copmpressor, complete brake line rebuild, new shocks, new radiator, just to name a few. It is slated for a rebuilt auto tranny as soon as my mechanic finishes with the present work. Can't wait to try out the new AC. Presently I am working on making new door panels. I am very good at upholstery work and I have cut new boards and will be doing a matching leather door panel with the same leather that was used on the seats. My pet peeve are door panels cut up to accommodate speakers. I am installing some BOSE speakers behind the panels and will have a color coordinated mesh fabric over them so they are unseen. Like so many door panels, mine had some H20 damage and were rotting in some places and when you pushed the panel back on the door, the plastic tab would push through. No more rotten, water stained panels!

    Now for the fog lights. I am also fortunate to have a very rare set of yellow fog lights. These are the originals that mount inside, not outside with a chrome trim sticking out like a sore thumb. It took me YEARS to find these and I finally discovered them in a junk yard in Australia several years ago and I paid more for them than what my plane ticket cost. I am having the car repainted and will install a new rubber seal on the outside of the fog lamps before they are installed. I have the fog lamp switch mounted in the dash so I am set to go. I have replaced the horns with some very loud ones I got from IPD and mounted them behind the grill. My next job is to convert the rear windows to power windows. It is beyond me why Volvo installed power windows on the front only so I have attached two more window down buttons on my center dash and will mount the buttons in the back either inset into the door pull or simply install the button on the door panel. I am hoping I can make it work on the door pull. I will have to fit the rear windows with regulators with motors but that will be the easy part.

    As soon as I get my car back from the mechanic, I will post some pics for everyone.

    This is the 5th 164E that I have owned and I truly love them. My first one was purchased in '82 when I was in high school. It was a 1974 with only 60K original miles. It was a fantastic first car and it took me through college. The one I am restoring now will be painted bright red and it is a keeper. My daily driver is a 2005 Audi A8L but I love the old brick so much more. Everyone comments on the old Volvo when I drive it.
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    1975 Volvo 164E - 86,000 original miles!








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      I'm interested in your power windows conversion...








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        I fitted the window regulators with motors from a 1982 GL since the motor is slightly smaller and it fit into the door with no problem. Everything else you need is already in the door. I used the same glass, same hardware. I am leaving the wiring up to my mechanic though and he thinks it will be a breeze. The windows still only go down 3/4 of the way. It was tested with the wiring from the front window and it seemed to work pretty smoothly. I am trying to figure out where to put the window switch in the back but I may use the switch from a 1982 GL since it is a small switch and I think I can incorporate it into the door pull. My new door panels are clean and flawless so I do not want to scar them in any way
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        1975 Volvo 164E - 86,000 original miles!







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