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I have an '89 240 wagon that recently began having a temperature problem. On starting, the temp gauge slowly rises (as usual) as the engine warms up, but lately the temperature continues to rise into the red zone, at which point I shut the car off to cool things down (don't want to drive in that condition).

A few years ago I had an erratic temp gauge which I fixed by replacing the temperature compensation board, but that time the temp gauge was jumping around. This time it rises and at highway speeds it will slowly fluctuate between "red" hot and normal but not necessarily tracking up or down with my speed.

In the last year, I have replaced the water pump, thermostat (at the onset of this problem, but didn't affect the temperature problem), and radiator. We had some snow last week and I had the 240 parked. I started it up after a week of being idle and it cranked up fine, and after a few minutes the temperature rose again. However, this time I also noticed the engine idle would jump around. Every couple of seconds the rpms would rise, then immediately fall, rise, then fall. If I give it some gas the engine sounds fine, purrs like usual.

So, what's my problem? I haven't gone for another temp compensation board yet since the gauge isn't "jumpy", but I'd go for it if that would solve the problem. I've been driving my 740 lately until I get this figured out. I've even considered selling (gasp) the 240 to reduce the cars in the driveway; I'm up to 4 now: 240, 740, V70, and F150.








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    temperature problem 200

    It sounds to me like the temp sensor on the engine block needs to be replaced. That happened to me when I realized that even though the temp gauge was on red and got me really stressed out, the reality was that the engine was not overheated at all.
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    -Cool Volvo- 1982 240 4 Spd OD w/ 227K, 1989 240 5 Spd w/ 214K. Used to own 1966 122, 1968 144, 1970 145, 1972 144, 1980 245








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    temperature problem 200

    One of the responses in the thread on the "oil in the radiator" question today has a link to a FAQ. In the thread on that link is a discussion of how a bad voltage regulator and excess voltage can cause the temperature guage to read high. It's worth checking.








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    temperature problem 200

    First thing is to determine if the gauge is telling the truth, or is it that @#$@#$ temp comp board?

    If the yellow wire connected to the temp sender on the engine is grounded, the gauge should read full hot. See if that happens.

    When the "almost red" situation occurs again, try to get out and pop the hood and see if the engine really seems that hot. Any coolant loss?

    My next step would be to jump the temp comp board. If the "Almost red" happenings still happen, then it's time to check things like the fan clutch, or flush clean the engine or clear any obstructions to air flow through the rad and a/c condenser. Or, worst case, check for a head gasket problem.

    Good Luck,

    Bob

    :>)








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      temperature problem 200


      As Bob suggested, sounds like it could be a bad fan clutch.

      G'luck!

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      90 244DL about 1/4 million miles - original engine/drivetrain :)








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    temperature problem 200

    I dont think the temp readings and the idle are necessarliy related. The temp problem could be several things including a plugged radiator.

    The idle could be water in your fuel- since you said it had been sitting several weeks. I would be tempted to fill up, add some gas dry. How are the plugs and wires?

    How cold is it where you are?

    Mike in Tacoma
    WE NEED SNOW
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    Mike in Tacoma








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      temperature problem 200

      I'm in Connecticut, so it's pretty cold right now. Below zero expected tonight. I filled up the day before it was parked, so I don't think it's the gas, but I can try the dry gas anyway. Plugs/wires replaced last year also. As for the temperature problem, I wouldn't expect a new radiator to get plugged within a year of installation??








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        temperature problem 200

        Sorry I missed the new radiator note.

        When it gets hot, does it boil over? Sounds like your system is " new ". The only other item that come to mind is a collapsed hose ( lower ). You said it runs fine, so that rules out timing.

        I don't know the failure modes for the temp gauge. Both of ours just stopped working. I did the bypass and it works fine. Not too hard to do. Maybe some one can comment on a resistance test for the sender.

        Mike in Tacoma
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        Mike in Tacoma








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          No boiling over...at least I haven't let it get to that point. It only stays above redline if the car isn't moving....I think. I know IPD sells a jumper (is that what you did?) or can I just jumper the two pins their wire connects?








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            temperature problem 200

            I have just jumpered the two wire. It is a bit tight,so what I did was soldered and crimped on some very small splice tubes to the wire, filled the tubes with solder and then heated them and slid them over the pins. Its a bit hard to explain. Im sure there are many ways to to it. Worked great. Temp reads fine. But if like others suggest its the sender then this will be of little value, other than you know its not the comp board.

            I thought of something else to check, how is the belt tension on the water pump?
            Any chance it could be slipping?

            Good luck

            Mike in Tacoma
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            Mike in Tacoma







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