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What the....? Can't figure this one out 700 1991

Last night I parked my '91 745 turbo in the driveway because my wife's new Camry got to use the garage (at least for its first night home). When I started the Volvo in the a.m. it ran very rough at around 1000 rpms, then the idle dropped suddenly to below 500 and down to about 300. Didn't stall, even when I put it in gear. It was running way rich, with black smoke coming out of the tailpipe. I turned it off and started it again three times and the same thing happened each time. But later in the day, after leaving it in the driveway all day, I started it again and it was back to normal, idle smooth, starting out at around 800 and then as the car warmed up coming down to about 650-700. I am very uncomfortable with these intermittent problems because you never know when one is going to surprise you.

Now, just so you know - the car has a new TPS, IAC motor, engine temp sensor, O2 sensor, RPM sensor, and a used ECU (which didn't make any difference to the low idle I was trying to fix). The TPS was carefully and precisely adjusted to the specs in the shop manual, and it is clean as a whistle. The vacuum lines are open and clear. The oil trap is open, and the oil filler cap passes the "jiggle test". So I'll be damned if I can think of what this might be.

What should I do? This is beyond my expertise (such as it is). Thanks.
--
Darius in Albany NY '86 744 GLE (174K); '91 745 Turbo (164K)








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    What the....? Can't figure this one out 700 1991

    I have one for both of you to try. I went through hell with my sister's 1990 740 Turbo. Locate the fuel injector relay. On the 91, it is over on the passenger side strut tower. Earlier cars have it on the driver's side, clipped to the power steering reservoir bracket. You will need to activate the relay and measure resistance across the connections to the injectors. If it is more than 1 OHM, you may have found your problem. A problem with this relay will act like a failing ECT, Oxygen sensor, Mass Air Meter etc. I know, because I just went through this myself.








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    What the....? Can't figure this one out 700 1991

    I would check the wiring between the ECT and the computer, because, as you know, infinite ohms at this pin will cause the computer to think its absolute zero outside and pour gas into the engine.

    Since this is an intermittant problem, be prepared to measure ECT resistance at the plug on the spot. Have your meter ready, the pins identified, the ECU cover pulled and the connector ready to remove so you can measure the resistance the next time it does it. In the meantime, you can pull off the plugs at the ECU and the ECT and extract the terminals and visually check the integrity of the pins and the crimps. Bend them to make tighter contact, and re-crimp/solder if neccessary. Also, consider doing the same to the harness connectors that exist in between; On my '87, the circuit goes through a connector near the right side of the firewall.

    The ECT grounds through one of the brown wires attatched to the intake manifold. (at least on my '87) Check these, check battery ground cable, etc, make sure the ECT has a good clean path to ground. Consider adding a ground wire directly to the battery.

    If you find the circuit open and you can't find a fault at a connector, I would run a new wire From the ECU to the ECT. Pins for the connectors should be available at the dealer.

    HTH,
    --
    bagle, 87 745t








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      What the....? Can't figure this one out 700 1991

      The ECT was replaced in June because of awful symptoms. It would be unlikely that it was faulty now. However, the wiring between it and the ECU might be faulty. I am in over my head at this point; wiring and ohms and resistance and all that befuddle me.
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      Darius in Albany NY '86 744 GLE (174K); '91 745 Turbo (164K)








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    What the....? Can't figure this one out 700 1991

    Please tell us about the weather conditions...wet morning? Cold? Sat in the sun for a few hours?








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      What the....? Can't figure this one out 700 1991

      Wet, cold morning, thawing after a heavy snow, car sat for two days when I started it. Since that morning the problem has gone away and not returned at all. Go figure.

      It is unlikely to be the ECT as a new one was put in in June.
      --
      Darius in Albany NY '86 744 GLE (174K); '91 745 Turbo (164K)








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      What the....? Can't figure this one out 700 1989

      i am fighting this same thing only its with a b280f.

      see my posts by searching for my name. or cut and paste
      http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=718937

      anyway 2 fellow postees have told me it is the
      fuel pressure regulator.

      mine is a jetronic 2.2 bosch fi. so i'd imagine
      that the thing that is effecting your is doing
      the same as mine. all bosch, same style sensors etc.

      just am afraid to through $50 at a pressure regulator
      and have that not be it. the warming up thing does't add
      up in my head to a vacuum assisted valve.

      anyway, i'll be following your posts too.

      jay







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