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Shouldn't it be 60K and 120K? I just can't imagine why the first timing belt lasts 60K and the second only 20K.
Any ideas and I guess the answer is, should I change mine?
Also, the timing belt is not the one that also runs the A/C compressor, is it? Dumn question but I can't seem to recall now.
Ruben
Florida
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someone claiming to be Your worst nightmare
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Wed May 14 14:43 CST 2003 [ RELATED]
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Chris Herbst is one of the most selfless supporters of this board. Sounds to me like the disorders that need fixing are with your personality(ies), NOT your volvo.
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60,000 miles=80,000 km. Look closely, the owner's and Service Manuals say just that.
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Never mind, I get it. km vs miles.
This thread has me really confused!
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You and me both!
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I would check your literature. I can't believe that either. However, the timing belt never drives any accessories. The timing belt is inside the engine and moves the camshaft in sync with the crankshaft. All the other belts for accessories (fan, alternator, a/c, power steering) are on the outside of the engine.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but you might be misreading the manual. Their service graphs take a little while to figure out (unless it is actually printed right there on the page: Change Timing belt at 80k).
The interval is actually 50k, 100k, etc.
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Chris Herbst, near Chicago.
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actualy it says (R4) 45,000miles
camshaft belt drive ,(A) (R4)at the bottom of page is 1-5 #4 says->
not included in emissions systoms maintence but we recomend that the camshaft belt be replaced every 45,000miles(75,000KM).
Now there is also a #5 next to the 45,000 that reads->
for service beyond 45,000miles (75,000)refer to maintnance service schedules chart provided with car.
This I dont have, and the 45,000miles sounds low.
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Kevin * HONDA spanking,1985 240DL * VOLVO ON!!!!
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Timing Belt: 50,000 miles (R).
I looked it up just to be sure. WIth all the shop time I have, the maintenance schedules of various RWD and FWD Volvos are etched in my brain.
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Chris Herbst, near Chicago.
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Owner's manual for the 85 shows:
Camshaft Drive Belt(4):
600-1200 mi (1000-2000km): Adjust (correct if neesary)
45,000(5) miles (75,000km): Replace(4)
4.) Not included in emissions system maintenance but we recommend that the camshaft drive belt be replaced every 45,000 miles (75,000 km).
5.) For service intervals beyond 45,000 miles (75,000 km) refer to the Maintenance Service Schedules Chart provided with your vehicle.
Service booklet with warranty conditions for the 84 shows:
760 GLE, 760 TURBO (petrol engines):
Additional operation every 60,000 km (36,000 miles)
Timing gear belt - replace (Turbo)
I've misplaced the owner's manual for the 84, so now I'm kinda curious what it shows. Given my luck, I'll probably be in to pull the timing belt off for something else in less than 50,000 miles. :)
The service booklet is a bit curious, as it's written using the British dialect (maybe different specs for the European cars? Hmmm).
- alex
'85 244 Turbo
'84 245 Turbo
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Could I please ask someone to tell me when or where this thread changed from a question about a nineteen ninety one 240 to a question about whatever year you're talking about?
I answer questions based on the query laid out in the FIRST question, unless it somehow turns to another model year question along the way (this has not).
Just because the car is a 240, it doesn't mean that the service intervals are the same across all model years and engines. Rubenoid asked about his 1991, and I gave him the CORRECT ANSWER for his 1991 240.
The older model specs don't apply to the newer 240s. If Rubenoid is looking for the proper answer for his car, US spec of year 1991, then it is 50,000 miles. Not 80k, not 45k, not 36k, but 50,000.
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I didn't mean to be harsh, if it came off that way. I'm a little chapped by this whole thread, and the what-year-has-what-belt-interval thing. I was initially just trying to answer a pretty simple question and it went down the toilet from there. Another reason to participate more carefully, or less, or something.
Someone needs to make a chart of this stuff. Things differ year to year, and it pays to get people the right answers (lest they come back for revenge, telling others to oil the timing belt or jack the car under the oil drain plug).
As for the transmission, of course you don't have one! Who would tell you a silly thing like, your car has one of those?
Do I have a steering wheel?
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Chris Herbst, near Chicago.
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I did a lot of soul searching after reading your reply, and it left me with just one question. Do I have a transmission?
- alex
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So I posted it again, this time in the right spot!
I didn't mean to be harsh, if it came off that way. I'm a little chapped by this whole thread, and the what-year-has-what-belt-interval thing. I was initially just trying to answer a pretty simple question and it went down the toilet from there. Another reason to participate more carefully, or less, or something.
Someone needs to make a chart of this stuff. Things differ year to year, and it pays to get people the right answers (lest they come back for revenge, telling others to oil the timing belt or jack the car under the oil drain plug).
As for the transmission, of course you don't have one! Who would tell you a silly thing like, your car has one of those?
Do I have a steering wheel?
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Chris Herbst, near Chicago.
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Chris Herbst, near Chicago.
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Thank you we finly agree on something, I have posted the manual
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Kevin * HONDA spanking,1985 240DL * VOLVO ON!!!!
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I've replied to Alex Z as well.
This question was initiated about a 1991 Volvo. I have no idea why that has any bearing on what an 84 service interval would be, but apparently it does.
I'll repeat myself again: The 91 Volvo 240's timing belt is recommended by Volvo's own literature, to be replaced at 50,000 miles.
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Chris Herbst, near Chicago.
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Than you are looking at a differnt volvo manual my, 85 maual says 45,000. I typed word for word what my manual says.(R)/(R4)
First you said 80k now 50k witch is it.
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Kevin * HONDA spanking,1985 240DL * VOLVO ON!!!!
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Chris is correct. Volvo revised the service interval for changing the timing belt in the 1986 model year. The 1988 Service Manual says 50,000 miles(the 80,000 number they give is for kilometers). The owner's manual from my wife's 1986 car says 50,000 miles, and the owner's manual for my 1987 car also says 50,000 miles. The 1990 owner's manual also says 50,000 miles. Etc.
It is the same belt used on all cars, but Volvo decided it was good for 50,000 (80,000 km) in 1986.
"First you said 80k now 50k witch is it."
You sound somewhat antagonistic with the above comment.
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no not all I just dont like to type in general and 80K is 80,000 80KM is not, thats all I ment.Also he did not mention that at all, about the revised by volvo. So to say I was wrong is wrong as I have a 85 manual and he was snotty with me in the way he replyed.I also stated that sounds low.DID'NT I.May bi if he was a littel nicer in his replys he would get respect WOULD'NT HE.
Since you cleared that up about the revised and the belts the same, thanks for the info.--
Kevin * HONDA spanking,1985 240DL * VOLVO ON!!!!
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I would message you privately and courteously, but the envelope beside your name will not provide your email address to me. There has been some discussion on this board about people who Claim To Be instead of identifying themselves. I believe the the discussion has been about whether these people are legitimate participants in the brickboard. Your lack of an email address puts you close to that category.
As an outsider to the original posts, I didn't read Chris replies to you as being discourteous. Besides making his living working in an independant repari shop mostly on Volvos, Chris has been a long time participant in the brickboard and I have only seen courtesy out of him even when he was Jackied around, which was long before your arrival. I think you would have found Jackie educational. She managed to anger anyone who read her posts, let alone participated in one of her threads. Let me add that there is nothing wrong with your being a recent arrival. All participants were all a recent arrivals at one time.
With the last fray which you got into on the brickboard I was hoping that you would respond in the same manner in which you would like to be treated, even if you felt someone was being snotty.
80K=80,000, no units. If miles were being discussed, it would infer 80,000 miles.
I would have sent the bulk of this post to you in a private email, but that option was not available.
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Wowe,no e-mail your right,I looked and could not find it.I will fix that as I like to make that available to all,THANKS! as far as this paticuler person is concerned he started with me first by macking fun of my posts,(no respect to me)most of the other people have took care the problem with me and that is a good thing, now I have many friends.One person dont mean any thing to me.
Jaki thing, well I can read and in her post asking if she had a trans she got greif for asking that,I think that is sad, mayby I dont know what all went on but she asked a question and the posts where not what I consider respectfull at all to her.
Than when she showed up again, someone could not stop refering to her and exposing the posts, (wich were in the past)in any of the links I read nothing that she did wrong or said was mean, but I did see the way that she was treated.(not kool).
Thanks for letting me know that my e-mail was lame will fix. I have tryed to talk to him in a nice manner but he has a problem with people debating with him threw debate comes knowledge belive it or not your post about the volvo changing the milage was a debate and now I have knowlege of that, see what im getting at.When some one goes against him or asks a question he simply gets mad so I don't need him,when he changes I will change.
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Kevin * HONDA spanking,1985 240DL * VOLVO ON!!!!
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I don't think you understand what words like nice, respectful, and courteous mean.
Your entire post was directed at me, making an example out of me and what I have done wrong (which is nothing).
You have turned the whole Jaki thing around on me, which is a clear misinterpretation of what happened with her. You have NOT done the correct and thorough research that you should have done to make that assessment; otherwise you would have seen the real character behind that and other screen names. Instead, you have made glaring assumptions that are ridiculous, at best, and are based on one thread. The Jaki anthology covers maybe fifty threads over three years, and it ALWAYS has the same, nasty results. EVery time.
With respect to this thread, you got nasty after I corrected your WRONG post about timing belts, after you IMPROPERLY corrected my original post, which contained the CORRECT answer. I can excuse that, but I can NOT excuse the fact that you are getting nasty about it, rather than being even MODERATELY gracious, or maybe just not saying anything.
You do not understand what giving a right answer might mean to someone. People depend on answers they get here. I usually give right answers, and when I don't know the right answer, I don't GIVE it. If--on VERY RARE OCCASION--I might give an incorrect answer, I correct myself, or allow others to correct me. If I don't know the answer to something, I don't bother participating in the thread. If I don't have the answer to a question, I say "I don't know". You can find such posts all over the board from me..
If someone is correcting me for the sake of being able to correct ME (not because they're giving a good or correct answer) then I don't sit around and watch it happen. Such is the case in this thread. Your post was wrong; that's all there is to it. Now shut UP about it.
Do not engage me in your angry, foul-tempered battles anymore. Get a life, get out of my face, and leave me alone. Don't martyrize yourself by "leaving the board because people are mean to you" or any of that crap. Deal with your post, and then forget about it. Or be like "icthecat" and blame your problems on someone else. In this case, that person is me. In the future, I'd appreciate it if you could find someone else to channel your anger at. In fact, I'd appreciate it if you simply disregard any post made by me. That way you won't feel compelled to "correct" me anymore.
Whatever it is that you do, don't bother me with it. Don't post wrong corrections, don't beat me up for posting correct material, don't get angry when you're wrong and get corrected, and DO NOT scapegoat ME with some stupid arguement about things you are not informed about!
How much more comprehensive do I need to be, before I make a really rare exception, abandon my usually decent demeanor, and address you in a string of profanity that WILL get the point across? Because I assure you, while I hate to play in the gutter, I *can* play in the gutter. And that is the next step. I am sick and tired of helping people out here and having people like you SHIT on me for it. People like you are the reason I had to PULL my email from the board. I have gotten the crappiest, nasty, TRASH emails from this board, and I don't feel that I need to expose myself to that. It is unnecessary, stupid, a waste of time, and what is even worse than that, the result is that people end up getting WRONG ANSWERS. Which in my opinion, is the biggest waste of all.
That is some thanks. I love the way people get treated here. Give thousands of answers, ask a question here or there (once every six months maybe) and the reward, is that I (and others who contribute a lot) get NOTHING except negative reinforcement.
Thanks a lot for that.
You've fouled this thread. Now is a good time to un-foul it.
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Chris Herbst, near Chicago.
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One question to rubenoid...
Do you have the service record when was the last time of the change of time belt?, if you dont, I recommend change it, I did this to my brick.
Edwin
PS; Sorry by my english...
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Most wisdom on this BB suggests renewing the timing belt every 50k - if your manual says 60 that's OK. The 80k must be a misprint. The timing belt is under the black plastic cover on the front of your engine. The A/C (and other accessory) drive belts are so-called "V-belts". If you don't have experience in checking them out, it would be good to have a trusted mech. look at them. They're cheap, relatively easy to change, and REAL inconvenient when they break.
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Bob (81-244GL B21F, 83-244DL B23F, 94-940Sedan B230F)
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