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What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

It's that blue thing with the two nipples on it. Is that part of the cold enrichment system?

Anyways.. the real question.. does it matter to what nipple I hook up each of the the two hoses that are connected to it?

- alex

'85 244 Turbo
'84 245 Turbo








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    What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

    I don't think right or left nipple matters, just go to it....you could read about it Bentley as well.
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    Paul's Amsoil and other lubricants








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      What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

      Read about it in the Bentley... okay sounds good to me.. where?

      Page 240-17/18 shows the cold enrichment system for the 073 and 123 CPRs. That more or less makes sense. I'm working on the 85 which has no vacuum lines going to the CPR (so I assume it's a 128).

      When I put the 85 back together for the first time I took a look at the 84 (which from all accounts doesn't have vacuum lines or a check valve going to the CPR either, but I haven't verified which CPR it has or if anything on the 84 is hooked up properly).

      The next step was to look at the Volvo CI repair and maint manual.. my copy was printed in 82 before Bosch came up with the 123, let alone the 128.

      The vacuum hoses off the TB are routed like this (on the 85):

      The big line at the “top” of the TB goes under the intake manifold and disappears near the battery. The small line at the “top” of the TB goes to a T, one end goes to the distributor, the other follows the big line. The small line under those two goes to the valve in the head, the other nipple on the fitting goes to some thing on the firewall that looks like some sort of regulator with an electrical connection on the other end (cruise control?).

      Another question that one of the brickboard smartass know-it-alls can hopefully answer (but it's gotta be run thru spell check first....):

      Would a lean condition result in less vacuum being shown on the boost gauge?

      How are your 85s hooked up?

      The main fuel pump is squealing like a stuck pig (7/8 tank of gas here). I'm trying to track down the cause of the rough running. Before adjusting the timing and verifying the front pulleys were all lined up properly (the original cause for sure) I made the hamfisted decision to try and replace the injector seals. End result was a trashed #1 holder and fuel line (with the injector still on the line, and the date code impossible to read). I pulled the #1 injector+line from the wagon, placed an outter seal on the holder and installed it. Timing is 10-12 deg BTDC. Car now won't run under load at all (was driveable before). Visually inspected and retightened the air box cover and all the hoses on the passenger's side. The hoses from the intake manifold to the intercooler are fine (and tight). The fittings on the intake manifold are tight, the fittings on the distributor and head are as well. IM gasket is new (replaced when I put the head back on.. it's some sort of kevlar impregnated gasket that Nick sent out). Throttle body gasket is new (and the throttle body is properly affixed. Car idles okay for about thirty seconds, and then runs much rougher.. but still idles. Dies under load. So I'm thinking maybe the cold enrichment is giving it enough fuel to overcome some vacuum leak... but the fuel pumps can't keep up under load?

      - alex

      '85 244 Turbo
      '84 245 Turbo








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        What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

        Maybe a huge vacuum leak? My car wouldn't idle ay all when I rebuilt the turbo because I forgot to put the little hose to the boost solenoid back into the hard intercooler line. You sure you got the line from the oil separator back on and into the turbo plumbing. I'm just guessing here but it seems like it might be something simple. When my car wouldn't run, I started thinking about problems with the computer, O2 sensor, and anything else I could read and confuse myself with in Bentley. Wasn't that you who nailed my problem?

        I think the reason my car ran horrible cold with the bad delay valve is that it wouldn't pass vacuum at all in the direction it was supposed to. If it had failed wide open, I probably wouldn't have noticed anything.

        Hope you get this figured out soon, Please post back when you do!
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        Bob W.
        '91 744T 173K
        '82 245Ti 238K
        '81 245 GLT, non-turbo 275K
        '67 122 wagon








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          What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

          Well, yeah I don't think it's a vacuum leak in this case. The boost gauge looks normal at idle (right at nine o'clock). I'm going to see if I can borrow the proper size (3mm?) hex key to richen the fuel mixture a bit. I've been over every inch of hose (most of which was replaced when I put the head back on), and have yet to find anything disconnected.

          Don't think it's the head warping or that the gasket let go (for shits and giggles Sam did a compression test.. 130, 130, 130, 135.. +- 5psi).

          Hopefully I'll have a chance to go out and get a used main pump on Tuesday.

          - alex

          '85 244 Turbo
          '84 245 Turbo








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        What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

        Emission controls.. hah. Okay, the cold acceleration contraption is hooked up properly.

        The pre-pump is dying or dead. Main pump was noisy below half a tank, now it's noisy all the time (thinking maybe the dead pre-pump is obstructing the main pump flow..).

        The frequency valve wasn't touched, I pulled off the cobra's head and unplugged, then replugged the frequency valve connector. I could hear the valve buzzing a bit, and then it stopped. Unplugged the valve, and restarted the car for even worse running. I'll assume it's operating.

        So now I'm back to where I was this morning. Working the trashed injector (from the junkyard) off of the good injector line and burning thru that 1/3 tank of gas so I can do the pumps without a mess.

        I miss the simplicty of EFI.

        - alex

        '85 244 Turbo
        '84 245 Turbo








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        What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

        For all practical purposes that cold boost enrichment system is kind of useless unless you boost your motor cold. I busted that blue valve the first week I got my 84. The car works fine without it. If this system was not working, I think it would more likely cause a rich mixture (valve stuck open and enriching the mixture when the engine is warm). Have you checked your frequency valve? Is it buzzing. A non working frequency valve causes a very lean mixture.








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    What's this vacuum fitting in the head? 200 1985

    On the '85 turbos it allows a vacuum signal to the cold acceleration enrichment diaphram on the firewall. It should pass air (vacuum) when the engine is cold and not after 135 deg F. For earlier models it goes to the CPR performing much the same function. I don't believe it is directional.
    Dave Shannon
    Spring Valley, California (San Diego area)
    '84-245 200K+
    '84-245T 190K+
    '85-244Ti 200K+
    '86-740 230K+
    '88-240 180K+
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