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245 In-Tank Pump Questions 200 1986

posted by  arkie on  Fri Apr 25 14:33 CST 2003
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In previous post, I was having problems with my '86 245 (over 146K)hesitating, stumbling, and just plain acting ugly after fuel started getting low. I just went in and pulled the pump out. After finding the access cover on the wagon (THANX to info from DON FOSTER), I started my wagon. I couldn't specifically tell if the pump was working or not, as my main pump (a rebuilt Bosch unit that was on the car when I got it) is very noisy anyways. I took the "threaded collar" (I hesitate to say "nut" after all the previous madness today (LMAO) and pulled the unit out (sock still intact believe it or not). I took the unit around to my battery, putting jumpers for the wires directly to the terminals on the pump - nothing happens. Am I correct in pronouncing this unit dead (moment of silence will be held if so) and would this be consistent with my 245's stumbling problem. I am kind of stuck here and need to get my wagon going before Monday - so has anyone had experience with the in-tank pumps available from AutoZone, Advance, NAPA, or O'Reilly's. These are my choices here, or else go to my local Volvo dealership (I swear they take Volvo's already high prices and double them as they are the only Volvo dealership for about 300 miles in any direction). Any input, advice, or warnings will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Lance White (in eastern Arkansas where Bricks are Bricks and Bimmers are nervous)








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    245 In-Tank Pump Questions 200 1986

    posted by  Aye Roll on  Fri Apr 25 22:12 CST 2003
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    Lance,
    Just replaced mine in the 87 240 and the Scan-Tech aftermarket pump from FCP Groton worked great. Likewise the sock, though it's only a good fit by virtue of being TOO TIGHT, unlike the original one which is flat and very difficult to get out. My new pump came with some short pieces of fuel hose in the box. One was all I needed.
    I ended up replacing the entire sending unit on mine because the tubing was completely rusted out at the top. Not leaking gas yet, but it was close to it. And DAMN that NUT was hard to get back in, with a new O-ring under there. The recommedation is to replace that O ring every time you service the sending unit. My advice: Keep your old one in case you get real frustrated trying to install the new one. In mine the nut would only turn about 1/4 inch then it was just too tight to move. Of course I'm not using IPD's magic tool but still... it came apart easily enough. Did eventually swear at it enough to get it into place.
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    Rob Bareiss, New London CT ::: '86 244DL- 215K, 87 244DL- 230K, 88 744GLE- 198K, 91 244 180K








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    245 In-Tank Pump Questions 200 1986

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    posted by  Art Benstein on  Fri Apr 25 15:41 CST 2003
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    Yes, it is dead. I took one apart to find the brushes worn to a nub and the commutator very rough.

    The good news if I recall correctly, is this is one part that is easy to find cheap at the chain auto parts stores, so I hear. I'm afraid I get mine at the junkyard because I don't mind the risk (they let you know when they go and run on 1/2 tank anyway) but for a benchmark it is about $30 as cheap as you can get it internet style, so keep that in mind when you call around tomorrow morning.

    I think the reason it might be easy and cheap is it was the same pump used in a chevy or something as common.
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    Art Benstein near Baltimore








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      245 In-Tank Pump Questions 200 1986

      posted by  arkie on  Fri Apr 25 16:01 CST 2003
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      I believe you are right about being common with other vehicles. I checked out the Haynes manual, and they said Volvo originally used VDO's, but later they changed over to AC brand. They showed a picture and mine is indeed the AC, so I'll probably pick up the one from Auto Zone ($34.99 brand new and $5.99 for the sock). Check out my newer post, though. I think I am missing my float for the fuel gauge. I posted a picture (isn't digital photography and the interenet sooooo cool!)

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      Lance








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    245 In-Tank Pump Questions 200 1986

    posted by  chuck b on  Fri Apr 25 15:09 CST 2003
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    Sounds DOA to me. Mine was the same.

    I'd call everywhere. If you have to have the car on Monday, price can't be your only consideration.

    BTW, check the condition of the hose from the pump to the metal line. It's only about 2 inches long and should be replaced while you are in there. I used regular fuel line for mine.
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    Chuck B '89 245 DL, '85 244 DL








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    245 In-Tank Pump Questions 200 1986

    posted by  someone claiming to be Mike Gambone on  Fri Apr 25 14:55 CST 2003 [RELATED]

    Well, let's sum this info up here. You applied 12+ volts to the in tank pump and it didn't run, sure sounds dead to me. Your in a jam, and need a pump, I'd call around to the 4 mentioned places plus the Volvo dealer and see who's got what in stock. My experience with Auto Zone parts doesn't turn me on, maybe NAPA will come through. The Volvo dealer may have the high price, but its guaranteed that the pump will fit! Time counts in this game. Not sure this helps much, but since your in a jam, I'd probably bite the bullet and get the OEM pump. Good luck.







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