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Freeze 12 200 1985

posted by  stxavier2003 on  Thu Apr 3 16:08 CST 2003
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I know many people on this board have tried Freeze 12 in their Volvo A/C units, and with apparent success. I have basically decided to go this route rather than bear the expense of a R134a conversion at the moment.

I checked out the Freeze 12 website and it says only wholesalers or people with A/C license. I noticed they have a kit with 3 cans and fittings/labels as well.

How have you guys been able to purchase this product?
Also, do I really have to buy that kit and change the fittings? Does the adapter they show allow me to charge through the existing fittings?

Thanks very much for your imput.







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    Freeze 12 200 1985

    posted by  rhaire on  Fri Apr 4 00:03 CST 2003
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    Well, I am really happy with Freeze 12. IF you decide to go that way, you take the on-line automotive refrigerant test to get you license. It is basically educating you about environmental issues and so forth. It takes a little study but is an open book test that is fun. You can link to the test at either the Freeze12.com or the Freeze-12.com site, I forget which.








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    Freeze 12 200 1985

    posted by  chris herbst on  Thu Apr 3 17:03 CST 2003
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    Why convert to Freeze 12 when it is 80% R134a in the first place? You're 20% away from having a full, clean conversion.

    Because of the content of R134a, the rules of R134a conversions still apply. It doesn't matter what the manufacturer says; there are some refrigerant blends that have multiple refrigerants (like Freeze 12). Some of them are known to fractionate and as a result, work poorly.

    If you are going to drain the compressor oil or do work on the system anyway, you are basically doing an R134a conversion. And putting Freeze 12 into the system is basically putting R134a into the system. And a little R142b.

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    chris herbst, near chicago








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    Freeze 12 200 1985

    posted by  stxavier2003 on  Thu Apr 3 16:32 CST 2003
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    This may sound stupid to some, but when I have it evacuated before I charge with Freeze 12, will that suck the old oil out? If not , should I change it to the ester oil (I know it will mix with R12's oil but the web says that ester is preferred)? Do I have to remove the compressor to drain it?

    Thanks again.








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      Freeze 12 200 1985

      posted by  sdol on  Fri Apr 4 01:56 CST 2003
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      Yes, sorry you must remove the compressor to drain the oil. I converted to Enviro-Freeze, a hydrocarbon refrigerant that does not require an oil change as it is compatible with the oil used in R-12 or R-134A. I pasted some info from thir web page on oil compatibility below.

      Q: Is Enviro-Safe ™ Refrigerant compatible with all refrigerant oils?

      A: Yes, Enviro-Safe™ is totally compatible with all refrigerant oil available today. It can be used with Mineral, Ester and PAG oils without incompatibility.

      http://autorefrigerants.com/

      For $39.95 I purchased their kit, Charging hose, fitting convertors, and 18oz of Enviro-Freeze which was enough to do my 240. Conversion took 30 min and on the highway air from my vents get down to 36 deg F.







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        Freeze 12 200 1985

        posted by  greg_mustang on  Fri Apr 4 02:04 CST 2003
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        Curious...

        You said it cost you 39.95.
        What about the evacuation? You took it to a shop, they must have charged you at least another that much?

        For some personal work compressor removal, oil change, and condenser removal and flush, with the same cost you could have put in R134. Would that not have been worthwhile? R134 cans can be bought at Walmart for nothing...

        Educate me. I am about to do mine with R134 and I do believe it is the bast way to go. Besides, the new compressor oil will prolong its life (save big $).

        Am I missing something?

        greg_mustang








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          Freeze 12 200 1985

          posted by  sdol on  Fri Apr 4 02:34 CST 2003
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          A/c shop removed the R-12 for free...








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            Freeze 12 200 1985

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            posted by  Paul Driver of Inga on  Fri Apr 4 04:25 CST 2003
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            They remove it for free, and then they clean it (part of the removal process) and sell it for $80.00 a pound or higher. Pretty good deal huh!

            They should be paying you, but we all know that is not going to happen.

            Freeze 12 does have propane in it. And an AC guy will tell you it could explode. Of course you never have heard of that have you.

            Mine is converted to the new freon. The compressor locked up one night.

            I wished these Bricks had better AC's in them. Down in Texas it leaves a little to be desired.






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