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High idle and surging 700 87

Been trying to tackle this problem....high idle... about 2000rpm...It used to be that it would just be a high idle...now, when you start the car (here in NY...cold a.m.'s) it will idle at 850 for a second, surge to 2000, then after 5 seconds to 850/1000...then to it's resting place at 2000...It is driving me cookoo....If you do have a suggestion, please be gentle, I am not that familiar with all the parts...and I do not know how to use an ohmeter/ampmeter...I see that you all use this tool to check current...maybe a quick seminar would be in order for us grunters (we can remove and replace anything, but have poor diagnostic skills)....thanks, Alan.








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    Re: High idle and surging 700 87

    Alan --

    Two things come immediately to mind -- first, the throttle switch, which tells the FI ecu ("electronic control unit") that the throttle is at idle position (essentially closed) so the ecu can take control of idle speed. If the switch (or throttle linkage) is misadjusted or misbehaving, the ecu may not take control of idle.

    Second is the CIS motor ("constant idle speed"), which is also called the "idle air valve." This is what the ecu controls. This computer-controlled air valve bypasses a small amount of air around the (closed) throttle while the ecu monitors idle speed. If the idle increases, the valve is driven closed slightly. Likewise, if idle drops, the ecu opens the valve slightly. The ecu monitors idle speed and opens-closes the valve to maintain this speed.

    This CIS motor can sometimes be revived by washing through it with carb cleaner. The accumulated gummy varnish can cause it to stick, so idle speed varies wildly. Washing out the crud sometimes restores the valve to functionality.

    However, sometimes it's the motor portion, and generally this is not recoverable. You must install a new valve (around $200-250 for a new one, I think).

    The CIS motor is mounted under the intake manifold, and not as difficult to replace as it appears. It should take under an hour to complete.



    Don Foster (near Cape Cod, MA)







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