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91 240 running rough

91 240 has been on and off for several years running rough at idle and over fueling. OBD1 typically says “running too rich or too lean at cruise or idle”. Wow. How helpful. I finally got a code about injectors after cleaning the MAF, changing the fuel psi regulator (even thought the original wasn’t leaking), verified to O2 sensor was good. Bought the injectors from FCP Euro and installed by trusted tech who collects old Bricks Car ran well. Test drove and it seemed OK. Then it wouldn’t start. Changed crank pickup sensor. No change. Fuel pump didn’t sound like it was running so tested separately and it ran. Changed the relay. Nothing. Figured ECU issue so ran a jumper for pin. It starts and runs OK cold, but once it warms up, it’s back to rough and over fueling.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I’m wondering if the new injectors might have zapped the ECU. Tech is looking for a test one with another tech to test ECU. Really maddening that is no better after trying so many steps.
Thanks,
Morf








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91 240 running rough 200 1991

"Wow. How helpful."

Agreed including the sarcasm.

Truth is "lean or rich" isn't meant to help you figure out why it isn't running the way you expect, it is the result of the government (at the time) requiring basic emissions fault recognition, leading to the owner's eventual discovery in the form of a CEL or Check Engine Lamp. Strictly identifying emissions over spec as required. It was in OBD-II, years later, that honest diagnostics began to be available to help your tech zero in on the fault.

One famous misleading bit of OBD-I nonsense is that "injector problem" tag the 113 code got in some manuals. A 113 does in no way indicate an injector fault, and I suppose hundreds of dollars or Euros have been misspent changing injectors based on that misinterpretation. 113 merely means the mixture is so awfully bad even the trim of squirt time can't put it in range. Common reasons are the FPR that you changed, an AMM with a filthy wire, or a dead oxygen sensor.

Bottom line is OBD-1 on your LH2.4 or 3.1 car gives clues to the experienced, but not cause-effect diagnosis like its more modern evolution.

Just make sure the injectors you put in were for the NA, known as Hi-Z or high-impedance as opposed to those for the turbo that require ballast resistors. Wholesale replacement of your injectors with low-Z could have damaged the driver transistor in your ECU, and will of course do the same to another.

Then look for basic reasons the fuel mixture might not be in range giving that 113 DTC.

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