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Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

posted by  Chris Mullet on  Wed Nov 24 18:35 CST 2021
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Our niece and her husband just purchased a 1963 544 (or is it 444?) I can't tell the difference.The car is semi-rat rodded. Were the 1963's originally 6 volt? Also, this car is running a B18 with dual carbs. Is that OE or did the 1963's come with B16?








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    posted by  james_a_sousa on  Mon Nov 29 10:58 CST 2021
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    There is plenty of literature available for the car, including copies of shop manual and parts manuals.

    for some fun, go to tube and see - volvo snow race, long version - terror tractor - Volvo PV Rallying | Crashes & action - and many of the old Volvo ads.

    Also search tube for Volvo Spa care- A-traktor, teens are allowed to drive 2 passenger cars that can not go over 25 miles per hour - early teens take old volvos, cut the car down to a pick-up cab and install two transmissions - one of them is left in first gear to limit speed. There used to be many pics of 544 pick-ups driven to high school.

    Volvo duett drift is one, Emil Froms A-traktor - volvo duett epa A- traktor

    The Swedish love hot rods.








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      Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

      posted by  james_a_sousa on  Wed Dec 31 18:00 CST 1969
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      this email just has my post in it. do you have any questions for me?

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        Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

        posted by  Chris Mullet on  Wed Dec 1 07:11 CST 2021
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        Hi James. The Brickboard automatically sends you an email with a copy of your posting in it.

        BTW thank you very much for the info related to old Volvos. Haven’t had a chance to check it all out yet.








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    Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

    posted by  someone claiming to be Barry flanagan on  Sat Nov 27 18:11 CST 2021 [RELATED]

    Hello Ladies and gentlemen my name is Barry Flanagan. I am Chris Mullets nephew. Thank you for all the comments. This will be a new adventure for us. We bought the 544 for our 14 yr old son as a project and to learn how to drive a manual transmission lol. It is done as a rat rod now and he has some big ideas about it. We hope that we don’t upset anyone here that doesn’t like custom stuff. Does anyone have some stock rims and beauty rings and caps for it. Can we post pictures on here. I would love to show it and get y’all’s opinion.








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      Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

      posted by  planetman on  Tue Nov 30 21:49 CST 2021
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      Hello Barry,

      Welcome to the forum.

      Posting pictures is a bit difficult here on the Brickboard and I prefer to enter the HTML in my posts to link to pictures that are on the web.

      Which style of steel wheels do you want? The original steel wheels for a 1963 544 are the solid type and they use larger style of hub cap. The later wheels have oval slots and use a smaller hub cap. Both styles used the same trim rings.

      Used wheels, trim rings and hub caps should be fairly easy find and I might be able to supply them. But there's a not to oft spoken problem with the old steel wheels and that is over time the holes for the lug nuts get bigger from repeated removal and installation and if ignored, the wheel can pull over the stock lug nuts and the use of oversized lug nuts is highly recommended.

      FYI, new reproduction steel wheels in both styles are now available as are new hub caps and new trim rings.

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      Eric
      Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
      Torrance, CA 90502
      hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com








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        Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

        posted by  someone claiming to be Barry flanagan on  Wed Dec 1 15:18 CST 2021 [RELATED]

        Thank you. I am not sure on the rims. Right now it has some aftermarket wheels 15x6 in the front and 15x10 in the back. And they butchered the rear fenders as well. My son wants to change all that. He also wants to put air bags on it. So we have to change the rims for sure.








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    Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

    posted by  Ron Kwas on  Thu Nov 25 09:33 CST 2021
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    Guys;

    I don't believe simply going by the YOM is enough, because in the early '60s both were delivered...I believe 6V may have been the default, with the "new" 12V being an option, not to mention owner changes which may have come later...

    The only way to be certain of what you have is by inspection by experienced individuals...a Battery with 6 cells is without a doubt a 12V system, and a chassis originally delivered with 12V would have a 4 Fuse Fuseblock similar to the 122...but a B16 was likely delivered with a 6v ESys, but may have been changed to a 12V sys later, and the 6 Fuse FB may still be present (so knowing a B16 from a B18 is also helpful)...and there have been a lot of years in which changes and/or owner engineering may have made.

    If the current owners are not Volvo qualified, and don't know what they are looking at, I suggest they should make some photos available, to allow inspection by those who can positively identify equipment.

    Cheers








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      Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

      posted by  Michael Basel on  Fri Nov 26 10:23 CST 2021
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      A definite clue would be on the carplate , 544 A and B were equipped with B16 engines and 6V system, 544 C and later were B18 with 12V system, at least originally.
      Regards Michael








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        Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

        posted by  planetman on  Fri Nov 26 10:56 CST 2021
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        If you're trying to determine whether a 544/P210 started it's life as a 6v car with a B16 or as a 12v car with a B18, check the placement of the idler arm for the steering.

        All B16 6v 544/P210 Volvos have the idler arm mounted on the engine/suspension crossmember, while all B18 12v 544/P210s have the idler arm on the right frame rail.

        Although possible to modify, I've never seen or heard of anyone doing so.
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        Eric
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        Torrance, CA 90502
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      Some 444/544 Questipons 444-544 1963

      posted by  Chris Mullet on  Thu Nov 25 12:37 CST 2021
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      Thanks Ron. The battery is definitely 12v. But I thought maybe it was converted from a 6v sometime in the past. The four-fuse fuse block is a nice clue - that’s what this car has on the drivers side of the firewall. The only wiring diagram I’ve seen so far was for a 6v with a six-fuse fuse block shown. So anyway I didn’t know if it may have originally been a 6v turned 12v.

      Also I know it’s a B18 per the ID cast into the LH side of the block. What’s been done to it over the last 58 years is anyone’s guess. It runs really nice and smooth and sounds great! The new owners report that it is quite peppy.

      We’re seeing that all of the heater ducting is missing from his Nader the dash and the heater core has been bypassed so it looks like a new core is probably needed.

      And the fun continues…..







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