Some kind gentle-person has taken the liberty to lighten my vehicle just abit while I was at work earlier this afternoon. Could any of you wonderful people on here help me to source an original catalytic converter and front pipe for a '94 NA 945 with egr. I've only been able to find the O2 sensor for it. The catalytic converter that was taken was the first and only catalytic converter that has ever been on the car. I'd like to put back an original catalytic converter back onto this vehicle. As always thank you for any help and/or information that you can provide.
Now, wait a minute. I went through this whole thread and nobody is curious about the disappearance of this catalytic converter? I've never heard of a stolen cat, this is a first! How does one do that without being detected? Usually it takes at a minimum a floor jack, and a decent supply of large tools associated with quite a bit of noise--definitely not like stealing, say, a radio! Muffler shops use power tools especially on older systems stuck by years of rust and grime! The thief must be a fiendishly skilled master mechanic to accomplish this, and likely a Volvo enthusiast and 940 owner, who else would need a 26 year old 940 cat?-this narrows the field. I would definitely like to know more about this! This happened at "work"? What pray tell environ do you park your car? And for how long? If a cat can be lifted like that, what about the engine, transmission etc? They are only slightly more cumbersome! Please, tell us more! I am dying to know!
You'd think a perp that skilled and crafty would be plying his trade in more profitable waters than slithering his way with his silent saws-all under senior Volvos for the hope of selling a cat to a junkyard, hmm... I suppose he is part of the same mentality causing the run on toilet paper in these panicky times...
The perp is selling cats to a metal reclamation facility, not a junkyard. She or he is getting (was getting) $110 each for 5 minutes with a sawzall in a parking lot. Maybe has a buddy to keep lookout to split the take with.
The "run" on TP is just supply falling behind demand when the future opportunities to fulfill demand are reduced. We all have established a "just in time" habit for buying the tissue, naturally, because it is bulky to store and have not experienced shortages in supply up until now. Humorous, more than anything, not criminal.
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This is (was) very common when the palladium and platinum prices were up maybe 12 years ago. I discovered that, and how much you could get for the early cats from the 80's and especially Euro cars, when my son-in-law called me to say he came back from his daily train commute into DC, to a frightening roar from the 84 240 Volvo. The going price for the original cat would easily pay for two aftermarket replacement cats.
A commuter parking lot is easy for someone with a battery powered recip saw, and the ground clearance of an old Volvo is plenty without jacking to reach the inlet and outlet pipes.
The surprise for me is that it is back in vogue. I'm lazy about checking the chart on metals pricing -- someone else can do that.
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Art Benstein near Baltimore
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I recently did a bit of cleanup and loaded up the 245 with scrap steel. The rate was $4 per hundred - 20 to 30 percent lower than usual. I checked the prices being paid for aluminum, copper, brass and caste iron -- all way down. Even with depressed prices there are always those who will hustle to make a buck. It was times like these 10 years ago that the unoccupied US Army Armory across the street from me was hit for all its copper pipe and wiring. It might have been years before that was discovered but I had noticed a chain locking a gate was cut and reported it. - Dave
Hope you're well. Exhaust pipes are thin-wall steel tubes so can be cut with plumbers' pipe cutters, usually used on copper or steel water, gas, or waste pipe. These tools cut silently. There are versions for use in "tight spaces".
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZo0bk_nalU .
A catalytic converter is easily accessible, once the car has been jacked-up a few inches. A tire-change jack suffices, if wooden blocks - or steel jack-stands - are used as stabilizers: it is unsafe to go under a car supported only by a jack.
Two questions really. Who would want one? - anyone who'd like the cash paid by yards. Original cats are worth more than aftermarket because they contain a far higher level of precious metals but any cat is worth something. I can only assume (this is not an indictment of youth) that you were not aware of what was going on at the start of the Great Recession when cats were being stolen regularly. I've seen prices as high as $50 each for original equipment cats.
Second part - a reciprocating saw will cut through the inlet and outlet sides of the connecting pipes in a matter of seconds. A TV or radio can keep an owner from hearing what is going on outside. Just ask this victim who had a stereo stolen out of his MGB-GT parked feet from the shop door while he (I) worked on a personal project inside at 2AM. -- Dave
Hope you're well. Volvo VADIS - a superseded dealer parts/service database - shows that for a '94 940 with EGR ( B230FD engine), the Volvo part is #1389966. I doubt this can be had from a Volvo dealer. A salvage yard might have one, though. BOSAL 099-950 might be an acceptable replacement.
I believe the correct engine pipe is 9135305, possibly superseded by #31372164. Double-check this with a Volvo dealer.
I'm still well, thus far. Thank you for asking. You are correct about that front pipe part number. I'm not sure which salvage yards I could call to find a cat. Do you have any contact information any these salvage yards? I also cannot seem to find any information on where I could purchase Bosal 099-950.
Would you be able to tell me what is the difference between 1389966, 8602937, and 8603144? Part 6842565 seems to be for a 944. Are the front pipes for a 944 interchangeable with a 945? Also my engine code is 83 not 88.
To answer one of your questions - ordering a part of the exhaust for a 944 would be the same for the wagon version. On the other hand--I don't think you will be successful finding a yard to sell you a "cat" -- they can't do it--by law. You'd have to find a privately owned junker with an original or buy a new one from Volvo. I was very satisfied with a replacement bought from Rock Auto for a 240 series -- they list cats for a 940 -- just not the same brand. The ones listed for a 940 ranged between $100-$110. -- Dave
Hope you're wel!!. I knew NY State barred installation of a used catalytic converter. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that California also bans use of used units.
I had thought Federal law allowed installation of a used unit for vehicles made before 1996, so long as: (a) the used unit came from a donor car of the exact make, model, and engine type as the recipient car and (b) the installation is properly done (i.e., no leaks, etc.).
Hope you're well. Many salvage yards are networked, so any yard near you is likely to be able to find a part, even if that part is in a yard hundreds of miles distant. You'll have to cover the shipping costs. You can find salvage yard by Goolgling "auto salvage yard" or "junk yard" and your zip code.
The Bosal 099-950 seems to be be available only in Europe. The shipping costs would be additional and likely pretty high.
But there's another Bosal unit - #099-942 - that might do the trick, see the BOSAL USA website: http://www.bosalusa.com/searchresults_qualifiers.asp?newsearch=yes&basevehicleid=845&engine=L:4:2.3&coverage=FED&submodelid=20#products .
I do not know what differences, if any, there might be between Parts Nos. 1389966, 8602937, and 8603144. These could be identical in form, but have different numbers because they come from different makers.
I'd guess that engine pipes (from engine to the catalytic converter) are identical as between sedans and wagons, so long as the engine type is the same, i.e., turbo or non-turbo. I don't know that the presence or absence of EGR would change engine pipe format.
Try Erie VoVo. They specialize in used OEM Volvo parts.
https://www.erievovo.com/
Also, if you do an Internet search there are now a few national junkyard databases where you can search nationally for parts with just one query. A few years ago I obtained a radio for my Passat using a national database although I can’t remember the database name at the moment...
Hope you're well. Some further digging shows that Volvo #6842565 - available from a Volvo dealer for about $290 - will fit a '94 940 (non-turbo, with EGR). You can also use a Starla pipe - #855-473 - available from www.fcpgroton.com for about $80.
Replacement stuff from Magnaflow and Walker are all over the internet/ebay. OEM? Try your dealers - but man, you are likely to pay a really high price for that IF you even find it.
hi sages- yeh watch out for night pirates swiping car parts. seems to be on the upswing. rememba a swine one night stole the plastic grill from my jeep Cherokee. shyster dealer wanted $400 to replace . reminded me of what inspector Renault said at ricks once in Casablanca , im shocked, shocked that gambling is going on here. I was shocked , shocked too that shystering was going on at the dealers. bought a new one from indy parts store for $89 and put it in myself. enough bad attitude. question- rememba on the forum here years ago the sage advice was to disconnect the hot air suction pipe from the manifold to the air intake (on my 92 245) so it would suck cold air into the maf sensor preserving its life. reason I recall was to prevent hot air induction from killing the sensor which costs a ton of gold to replace. is this still sound advice? what do you think arty b and kit g. thanks tons oldduke
air filter box is another dirty trick - what about hot air pipe on my 245 - yet a clean air filter and no air induction intake vacuum leaks!!!! 200 1992
Though it's rather Mundane daily of late. Easy for some ro enjoy too much of the daily Ripple, I admit. Though you can grill out some fresh fish and veggie if you have an outdoor grill.
It goes to the preheater flappy valve inside the old air filter box preheater thermostatically-controlled flappy valve trick. (Love them compound noun phrases when technically writin'!)
Here is an excellent article on the topic of why awesome and excellent Volvo 240 owners as yourself would delete the in the Volvo 240 air filter box thermostatically controlled flappy valve assembly.
Matthews Volvo Site has a thread on this topic of removal of at least the preheater pipe from the exhaust manifold heat shroud to the bottom of the air filter box. The hose routes under the water pump fan shroud.
Same URL link (Copy and Paste):
https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66714
The thermostat to controls the flappy valve action that more of less blends the preheat air with the ambient air to maintain some semblance of not too cold air getting into that AMM / MAF.
The thermostat fails, and get stuck. Usually to the hot air all the time position. Bad for an AMM / MAF in that 240, 740, and 940. Turbo 700-900 does not use a preheater function in the air filter box. This same thermostat is used on other models and years also.
If you live in Michigan or someplace civilized like Finland (a real Republic), you want to replace the in the airbox preheat thermostat so you ensure a blend of air that is warmed to a point. I dunno the temp, yet if the AMM / MAF hot wire gets too much cold air or the temperature is too low at the hot wire, it (I guess) makes the fuel control ECU enrichens the the fuel to air ratio. Yet the oxygen sensor and coolant sensor may cause the ECU to change that fuel trim.
Uncle Arty B. knows!!!!
The air temperature thermostat is made by Whaler (now Borg Warner) and is Wahler part number 70411. Borg Waner may also have a part number for it now.
The FCP Euro sale page for the Whaler Volvo Air Box Thermostat = $15
The Tasca Volvo entry for the Volvo OEM Air Charge Temperature Sensor - Volvo (1266826) = $46
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As you are in Florida-state, your state no longer requires any emissions inspection for automobiles 1995 and older. Sort of like Michigan. (I'd rather reside in Michigan.)
If you have the preheater air hose between the exhaust manifold air filter box connected, yet have not replaced the in the air filter box Thermostat, remove the that hose. As the Matthews Volvo site article (link above) shows full removal of the hose and a few ways to close off air entry at the bottom of the air filter box.
That hose at the air filter box end unscrews from the air filter box end.
If testing in your state is like California, you must leave the hot air pipe in place. The best scheme is to get down to the bottom of the air intake box and physically jam the flap into the cold air position permanently.
No harm will be done to the running of the engine.
With a 1996 850, I replaced the bottom of the air box with a turbo version that doesn't have the hot air. It still works nicely after 5 years.
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