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K-jet to carb. swap 200

I'd appreciate any tips & advice on replacing the K-jet system with a carburetor on my'79 244DL, which is a 2.1 litre 4 cyl. I know a Weber is a popular choice, but are there other brands that will work as well? And if I use a Weber, which model is best? Would an electric choke be the best? Also, which intake manifold? Is there a mechanical fuel-pump that will mount to the engine? Any & all input will be welcome.Thanks








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    K-jet to carb. swap 200

    Had done an LH B230 to carb many moons ago .Used complete manifold carb from
    a b21a(Canadian)was simple straigforward.Ran fine on the stock intank pump.K jet convertion should work even better with its electronic ignition.
    Probably slight loss of power,fuel economy.
    Mind you at that time i was also driving a kjet B23E (155 hp eurocanadian)
    loved the k jet , was extremely reliable,but few did well in long storage.

    May the motorhead force be with you
    --
    Rene








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      K-jet to carb. swap 200

      This car sat for several years which was very detrimental to the K-jet system. That's my reason for wanting to do the carb swap. I've already converted the ignition to a GM-Chevy ignition module, as seen on Youtube. Works great & a fraction of the cost of original.








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        "I've already converted the ignition to a GM-Chevy ignition module, as seen on Youtube."

        I tried to find the link you are mentioning but can't find it.

        Is it easy for you to post it ? I would apreciate very much.

        I have this project of converting breaker points to electronics ignition soon on my 240 1982.

        In a couple of weeks I will have hearing aids and will then be able to detect pre-ignition.

        Thank you.








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          K-jet to carb. swap 200

          I was just surfing Youtube and stumbled across the ignition module swap video. I think it was something like "Toyota Hilux to GM ignition module swap" There are also others showing how to do the swap on older Dodge trucks. Another video actually shows a wiring diagram. I think you'll have to replace your old distributor with an electronic one in order to make the swap. Mine has a green wire & a brown wire going to the ignition module. All the people in the videos seem very happy with the results. As soon as I finish the "carb" swap on my '79 I hope to have similar results.








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      K-jet to carb. swap 200

      I've done a few B21A carbs (Stromberg) to B21/23F motors. That entails finding a donor. I did one with the mechanical pump supplied with the whole setup. The pump runs off the auxiliary shaft - provided your motor has the driving lobe (may not be there on a B230). Motors made for marine use have a mechanical pump that is available. I did one using the in-tank push pump and provided a path for the gas to the return line plumbing. I've also done a few Weber 32/36 conversions on B18/20 motors. I found those carbs to work quite well (without the noticeable loss of power with the side draft Stromberg). I prefer manual choke. I found the electric choke 32/26 comes off choke too soon in cold weather--a simple resistor (sourced from a '70s Chrysler ignition system) wired in-line worked - and then by-passing it in warmer weather. Some jet fiddling is required for individual installations. Chevy Vegas and Ford Pintos used a Holley version of the Weber 32/36 with auto choke and they provide a more normal filter housing rather than the after market foam filter you see on most Weber installations. I've given some thought to converting a B21FT intake manifold (vertical mounting of the throttle body) for use with a Weber/Holley. I have a collection of manifolds and carbs, if interested. - Dave








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        K-jet to carb. swap 200

        I've been considering the Pinto/Holley 5200 carb. since the Pinto & 240 have approx. the same cubic inches. Also, the mounting is supposed to be the same as a Weber. I can use a "marine" intake & make an adapter to fit. Unless I can find a good deal an intake made for a Weber. The Holley 5200 uses a "wet"choke, instead of electric, but probably wouldn't matter, once it's adjusted properly. Let me know what manifolds & carbs you want to part with & prices. Thanks








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          K-jet to carb. swap 200

          I've been slowed up by a toothache so it will be a few days before I can sort through the carbs. I have a couple of B21FT intake manifolds. The throttle body sits in an upright position. Throttle bore size is plenty big enough to handle a 32/36 so an adapter plate should work to mount one. I had another thought. I soon will be scrapping my 1980 245. I've never had to touch anything with the FI except to remove the injectors, clean them and install new seals. The air slide valve never worked as long as I've had it. I just lived with it. It was supposed to be a temporary car and it is--if you can consider 19 years and 200k temporary. I'm hoping someone will be interested in it for the M46 transmission. But if not, I'll keep the tranny and scrap the rest. If you want to get in touch -- my email fastforwardphoto(AT)yahoo(DOT)com -- Dave








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            K-jet to carb. swap 200

            Thanks, but I bought a Holley 5200 carb (Weber clone), & intake, (came in the mail today). I need to make an adapter so everything will bolt up. Should be a fairly easy swap.








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              K-jet to carb. swap 200

              Not a problem for me if you've already secured what you need. Question--does the manifold have provision for a water passageway? In cold climates that's important for proper running. If not, I've used a base mounting plate made for Renault LeCars that also used a Weber (30/30) which has a water pipe built in. It bolts right on between the manifold and the carb.
              Another thing I've found (living in a relatively cold area) needed to avoid carb icing is a path for warm air. If your setup uses a generic foam filter with a wire cage - In winter I fashioned a partial cover over the filter out of aluminum foil and ran a tube to the exhaust manifold heat shield. I made these mods on a B20 which has the intake and exhaust on the same side of the motor. I can see icing as an even bigger issue with the intake separate from the exhaust. good luck with your installation--Dave








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                K-jet to carb. swap 200

                I'm in South Texas, so I don't think cold (as we know it) will be an issue. Cold is anything less than 80. Thanks for the info.








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                I thought of this after posting---on the carbed (side draft Stromberg) versions of the B21/23 there is a water passage built into the head (which is covered by a freeze plug type plug on FI motors) for the purpose of heating the manifold.-Dave







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