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Need A/C 1800 1970

OK, need to put an air conditioner in my 1800E. Already have the dual pulley, so was thinking it might be easier to put a second alternator where the A/C compressor goes and then find some sort of compact DC-powered A/C unit, maybe from a camper or RV, under the dash. It ain’t a huge space to cool.

Any suggestions about successful creative approaches at air conditioning? Or about DIY conventional kits for this vehicle?








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Check out "Vintage Air" located in San Antonio Tx. They can cool anything.



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They can but only Robert Foltz makes the correct bracket needed for a B18 or B20.



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I've heard that "Vintage Air" in San Antonio Tx. has or can make a kit for just about any car.



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If needed, I have the compressor bracket (and belt adjusting pulley) available that mounts the compressor at a 45 degree angle to clear the 1800 hood line. - Dave



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Dave,
Will your compressor bracket work with a rotary compressor or is it for the large York style that was typical in that era?



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When you ask--will it work with a Sanden compressor? do you mean will one just bolt on? -- no, these are original mounts made for the York compressor as there was no such thing as Sanden "in the day". BUT -- they are very sturdy & simple in construction and the hard part of fitting to the block is already engineered and accomplished. To mount the Sanden 4 "ears" would need to be welded and drilled. Could be from scratch - or cut from a steel bracket already made for a Sanden. thanks for the inquiry, Dave



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Robert Foltz is the man that makes the Sanden compressor brackets. (570) 689-2886. Email rwfwle1800@verizon.net



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Tried emailing Mr. Foltz but the listing is rejected as non functional. I try the phone number.



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I was able to contact Mr Foltz and order his compressor mount for my B20E engine. I recieved it today and immediately installed it. The fit and mounting holes were exact as the order included the mounting bolts (hardware). I haven't purchased a Sanden or Sanyo compressor yet to verify the pulley alignment. I have the idler from the old instal but I have no idea where it was formerly attached. I check the right front of the block head and the only stud recepticle I could locate was the one for the alternator bracket. Is this used for both?



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Hello,

There should be a 7/16" x 14 tpi threaded hole above the hole for the alternator bracket to mount the tensioning arm that the A/C idler pulley is attached to.

However, IIRC, the very early B20E cylinder heads didn't have this hole so an additional bracket is required.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com



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If an additional bracket is required to mount the idler pulley, where does that bracket attach to and how does the idler fit on to it. Is there a source that can provide the bracket or does it have to be a custom fabrication? My engine apparently is an early B20E, as the only thing above the alternator bracket hole is a freeze plug! The curious thing about my 1800 is that it had A/C installed that was removed, along with the old original upright compressor mount bracket. I have the old idler but can't figure out where to attach it!



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Hello,

Can you post a picture of what you have?
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com



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I would post a picture if I could figure out how. When I hit Image URL spot it doesn't allow me to submit my picture but takes me to a image library of other pictures?



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Hello,

Post the web address of the picture and I'll try to get it to appear.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com



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I don't have a web address for the pictures but I can send an email with the pictures attached if you provide an email address.



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Hello,

"hiperfauto" at h-o-t-m-a-i-l DOT com


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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com



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Bob Foltz usually includes the pulley and mounting bracket with the compressor bracket.



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AFAIK, Bob charges extra for a tensioner pulley assembly.

I can't remember if he gave us a better price for buying both at the same time, but we recently bought his B18 compressor bracket and tensioner pulley assembly and I know the 2 parts together cost more than just the compressor bracket alone.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com



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I haven't bought a bracket from him in a long time. Both were included but I left my original pulley bracket installed that was dealer installed.



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Julio,
Thank you for that name. I don’t think I could find it otherwise. My stuff is a mess!



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I keep him in my phone contacts.



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The original bracket won’t support a rotary style compressor. At one time I had the name of a guy that fabricates brackets to mount the rotary compressor to the B20 engine. I’ll have to dig through my “stuff” to see if I still has his name. Others on the BB may also remember who it was.



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I got tired of my 242's OEM system being unable to keep up with southeastern US heat. So I 86'd the entire OEM HVAC system except for the dash vents and bought a universal street rod kit from Classic Auto Air. A bit of fabrication, but it works like a champ.

No idea what the amps/draw is on the type of DC system you're thinking about. Never occurred to me to go all electric....gotta think there's a reason you don't see more of that in cars/trucks.
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82 242-6.2L; '17 Mazda3; '16 Crosstrek



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Yeah, my wife's 2013 Gen III Prius has a great electric system. Engine doesn't even have to be running. Was hoping to get one of them from a salvage yard, but unfortunately they run on 200+ volts. There's a video on YouTube, Redneck A/C, where a guy cut a square hole in the backseat panel of his hot rod and stuck in a cheap Walmart window A/C. Then mounted one of those little Honda camping generators on a plate and stuck it into his trailer hitch. Very creative, and I guess it got him to/from car shows. I'd like something a little more elegant. Most of the camper/RV units I've seen require external mounting.



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