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1041 clunking 200

I put a 1041 Eaton locker that had 150000 miles in my 1990 240 9 years ago. Currently it has 210000 miles and it has developed a lot of play in it and
become very "clunky" when first accelerating. The 1041 is helpful in winter driving. I'm hoping that it will last the winter. Just wondering if anyone has experienced similar symptoms and could tell me how much life is left and is it worth fixing.








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    1041 clunking 200

    You've seen this info:

    http://people.physics.anu.edu.au/~amh110/Diff_LSD/diff_lsd_volvo_dana.htm

    Dan Pageda's link to the Spart lockers makes me want two. Oh, that's awesomeness on that Amazon page.

    I have the LSD on the 1992. Does fine. Yet I drive like a little owld man in my little old man car, they would complain to me, when I had passengers, in the 1980s-90s.
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      1041 clunking 200

      My daughter used this Volvo for 4 years in NE going to college and I know that she didn't pamper it. Do you find that the locker makes any clunking noises? I have a rear clunking noise that I have been chasing for awhile without luck and think it might be in the axle or shocks.








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        1041 clunking 200

        Could be torque rod or rear trailing arm bushings also.
        Dan








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          1041 clunking 200 1990

          In the 1992 240 GL, it is a Dayna 1031 housing. Same as on your 1990 240, Yama.

          Did this clunk or clunking begin immediately. As in one day, all of the sudden, cluck on starts.

          You write in the third post of this thread:

          "I did change out the gear oil to redline synthetic when installed. Initially thought u joints but when I looked at it on the lift play seemed to be coming from within the axle."

          What do you mean? Play at the differential input flange as you grabbed and turned / gyrated the drive shaft at the rear U-joint? With rear cover removed?

          Any oil loss at the pinion seal? Did you perform any work on or replace the pinion bearing? I'd guess you'd not have to for a diff gear swap as with this. Does your differential have a crush sleeve or no?

          Though the housing model is sometimes associated with the gear set inside. Open, LSD, locking. A little fasty / loosely on the terms sometimes ...

          You removed(?) or bought new(?) a (much-coveted) Eaton G80 locker and swapped in? The G80 from a 940 live axle 1041 diff and into your 1990 240?

          Other than a hardly noticeable boompf (more felt than heard) when the (as you sit inside) car left side rear wheel engages, no bump on my 1992 240. It is the 1031 with the LSD anti-spin installed by the dealer or at the factory as the North America US market optioned in 1992. The thing has like 170k miles on it if one believes in the now halted ODO (ODO repair pending). New Amsoil synthetic fluid. Well, new some years ago. The old mineral fluid was quite okay, though. Bitter sulfur metal-y smell, not burnt, yet old and sort of dark.

          I put new poly, rather stiff, torque rod bushes that sit inside each end of the torque rod after removing the factory rubber bush shell. Stuffed as much of the synthetic silicon SuperLube NLGI II grease in there. Torque rod failure appears to be the start of rear suspension bush failure and then the rest of the rear bushes go south (so is my observation).

          As you swapped in the Eaton G80 locker bits *from* the (940? Jeep? New?) 1041 Dana housing into the 240 1031 pumpkin (pie - ha-ha!) housing, though durable, a faulty install may have demonstrated issues earlier than the 60k miles now passed on it.

          Do you drive aggressively? I'll guess not.

          Though you can drain the fluid and inspect, if you've not replaced the suspension bushes, the torque rods as Dan mentions, and more so the trailing arm bushes, you can get some manner of clunk under some hard starts and stops.

          Though at 200k miles, the rear axle wheel bearings can be suspect. Usually, as the tapered bearing set wears, and play forms, differential fluid can seep out to start or it can leak a lot and rather instantly. Lift the rear when and spin the tires. May help to ensure the rear brake pads are not dragging to much.

          Yet you'll also get the rear axle 'crab walking' sensation, also, with failed trailing arm bushes.

          It would be hard to have a second person to ride in the rear to listen and decide whether the sound is from the center or either side. Can't hurt.

          So, after all this, I'm unsure.
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            1041 clunking 200 1990

            I may have incorrectly identified it as a g80/1041. The whole rear axle was pulled from a 1993 240 classic. Not exactly sure what type of locker it is but the cover on it is different then the common Dana 1031. This website which has some information on what it might be.

            http://people.physics.anu.edu.au/~amh110/Diff_LSD/diff_lsd_volvo_dana.htm

            The site list 1993 as the year a new Automatic locking differential came out. The Bentley list 1041 as a differential option in the specification page. I thought it was a 1041 with some type of Eaton locker.

            I had the car on a lift and could see and feel the play in the differential when turning the pinion shaft. It is different than the standard 1031 differential so maybe some additional play is normal. I can feel it when driving at crusing speeds and then acclerating. I do the exact same as you with torque rod bushings.

            No drips from the pinion seal and fluid level is topped off.

            May not be all the common of an option. I was hopping to maybe hear from others who might have this "1993 locker".








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    1041 clunking 200

    Check this out.

    https://www.amazon.com/USA-Standard-Gear-D30-27-differential/dp/B007N3P9DA/ref=sr_1_12?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=warehouse-deals&ie=UTF8&qid=1511043724&vehicle=1993-27-129-20--16-6-7-3545-18-1-1-67--1-0&sr=1-12&ymm=1993%3Avolvo%3A240

    Dan








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      1041 clunking 200

      Dan,

      Have you ever run one of these lockers? Is the ratcheting noise loud when turning? Still have the original Dana 30 I could put back in also have a rebuilt Dana power lock unit I could install in it. Not sure about the power lock for having problems with fish tailing. I hope to have it last the winter and change it out in the spring.








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        1041 clunking 200

        No, I just look for parts for my 240's and thought it might be what you need. Kitty may have some insight on the brand.

        Dan








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          1041 clunking 200

          No insight, yet *looks* like a very cool option. I barely recall the brand, though. Need some research! One hopes the price is a true value and the quality recalled indefinitely as no problem.

          I'd hoped to perform such a swap-in on a few 240s I'd owned and own. Works fine enough.

          John Sergeant makes useful mentions of differential swap-in options for 240 in many threads. I forget what he mentions. ... edit .. found it:

          Differential Rebuild. [Inquiry] What is the best way to rebuild my antislip differential? [John Sargent] I found it was cheaper to have a Detroit TrueTrac installed than to rebuild the Volvo unit.

          Read here:
          https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/Driveline.html

          Or here:
          https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/Driveline.htm

          And this:
          https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/RearSuspension.htm


          I'd not futzed with diffs and transfer cases in quite some time.

          Sorry not to bring the useful replies.
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    1041 clunking 200

    Volvo used to claim that these things were "lubed for life." If it went 150K on factory lube and you were the first to ever drain and refill it, then there is probably not much you can do at this point. You might consider switching to a fully synthetic lube to get a few more miles out of it. It could hold up for another 50K, or it could crap the bed in 6 months. If you have to replace it, another JY unit is going to be cheaper than rebuilding this one.

    But first verify that your problem is not the axle shafts or rear wheel bearings.








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      1041 clunking 200

      I did change out the gear oil to redline synthetic when installed. Initially thought u joints but when I looked at it on the lift play seemed to be coming from within the axle.







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