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Tires for a 245 (and the Pirelli P6 is back) 200

It is time to put new tires on the 245....

I see that the venerable Pirelli P6 is back in production (now dubbed the P6 Four Seasons). If memory serves, this was the OEM tire for the 240 until about 1985 or '86, when it was discontinued. I do not know if the new P6 is similar in design to the original or if Pirelli just brought back the name as a marketing gimmick, but I suspect the latter.

At any rate, the reviews on Tire Rack are not very good. Several reviewers mention that their tires were tread bare after only 20,000 miles.

I am also looking at Continental's ContiProContact. A very good tire, but also pricey.

I would like to keep the cost at 100 per tire or below. I've purchased Hankook tires in the past, in fact that is what I have on the car right now. They have been just OK. I thought they were noisy. I drive this car a fair amount so I am okay with spending a bit more for better tires, but at the same time, I do not want to get carried away.

Suggestions much appreciated.








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Hi,

I know about old Pirelli tires. It took only the one set that came on my '78 GT to lose me!
They seemed fine driving them for about half their life and then the wear really accelerated.
I figured that maybe they were softer racing minded tires and wanted to lose them.
I later put on Good/Years Arriva's, early 80's and I was amazed how much the roaring noise went away that I had gotten use too! It was like losing a cement truck or today's 4X4's rolling alone side me.

I stayed with Good/Year for a long time until I realized that they were playing tread thickness games when I went to replace some on my pickup truck with the same tire I had before.
They were the same price I paid years earlier and I was surprised.
I took out my penny, as I remembered where the older set came to in depth to Lincoln's head. On the newer truck tire, it was almost 3/32 of an inch less rubber all the way around that pickup truck tire. Almost from the tie/chin area to the nose difference.

If you want to center in on "good Mileage warranties" they push you to buy the newer one when they come out to a marketing a new name brand. This way they can say you will get more "Mileage" than their older brand or your older tires still offered for a few dollars more. The new tire can be the same tire with "redecorated" print on the sides and they won't be lying.

If you think about it, the most logical place that any "safe" adjustments made to cut manufacturing costs of a particular model tire, sold through any dealers verus warehouses, as some posters may claim being different.
I can see the depth or compounding model to model is different if made by the same manufacturer.
I cannot quite bite with that warehouse claims are of a lesser quality.
Consumers could compare depths store to store. Then there is a liability issue of "product fairness" in a "competitive bidding" world that would immediately jump into something serious let alone franchises.
It is the numbers or size of a contract that shaves prices.

Light truck tires can have more tread than say a "passenger car" tires but I think there use to be a 15/ 32" maximum limit government or a manufacturers imposed limit years ago.
This is true "scuttle-butt" as so far I have never seen such a rule written. Apparently, "Any" off road tires appear to be exempt to highway use laws! Go figure!

There is the minimum 2/32" worn out limit and there is a movement to make a six year age limit lawfull in a few states. Manufacturers are opposing this as being not needed as the current "turn over of tires, "recycled numbers" are that long or longer without problems in any large mass safety board reviews.

The last part of paying a liitle more is what I do. I prefer Michelins "Air Stop" rubber compound.
I have learned long ago that when it comes to tires and belts or any rubber products, in general, you get what you pay for. You just have to learn the sellers.
Their buying power for fresh products has to be respected.
Especially in batteries, "fresh" is a big problem as they can sit for months or in several cases for years. That kills the longest term life of them, all unseen unless you are aware of codes or date stamps.
Any dust plied or lying around those on a bottom shelf, raise your eyebrows!
I was passing through a small town parts store and saw some sitting there two and three years old! I'm glad I didn't need one in those sizes.
They needed to recycle those for the turn in money as a " give them away deal," would not be a good deal.

Phil








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I'm running ContiContact 205/65R15 on Virgos and Michelin Harmony 185/70R14. Both are excellent but will return to Michelin when the Contis wear out.








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I like Michelins too. Have owned many over the years. Particularly the MicheIin MXV4's. Tried other brands too but have come back to Michelin.

I really like the new Michelin Premier AS. IMHO - they are definitely worth the extra money for their wet and snow/ice performance and long tread life alone. Not the best overall handling tire but a good riding, quiet, predictable tire. I think they are the best all-around tire I have ever owned. Bought two a few years ago for my 2002 Passat wagon and just bought 2 more. The first two have almost 50k on them and they look almost new. With luck, I'm hoping for 80-100k+ on them. Plus, with their new rubber technology they will stick to the road in the rain as well when worn as when new!








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agree with what you say about michelins. i prefer their defender model. 90k tread wear too. costly about 120 per. thanks tons oldduke








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what about the kumho solus TA11?








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Not familiar with the Kumho Solus TA11's. I had the Kumho Solus KR21 on both my 240 and 850. A soft tire. Ride well, fairly quiet don't handle great (especially in snow!) and lucky to get 40k on them. I think I got more like 30k. Good economical choice if you don't plan on keeping the car long and are not driving with them in snow. If you plan on keeping your car for a while - IMHO - Michelin is worth the extra money plus their overall performance is superior to just about any tire on the market.







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