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Hi All

After one and half years later with close to 50,000 miles on our "NEW" flying brick, she said yes!!! I really enjoyed this posting and it helped. My wife and I had a good laugh. Thank you as always.

Now, I just need to see which sweet animal will follow me home. I already have a name for her/him.

well troops, an update... brought the subject up a couple nights ago with the Mrs. in what I thought was only the most considerate, thoughtful way. Don't think I played the emotional card appropriately however. Tthe term 'toy' was abrasively flung back at me. Hmmm.....still got some work to do. Good news is a like-new used V70 is in the works for her replacement wheels so once I get that squared away and get her rolling pretty perhaps I will be in better jockeying position!

I am a money guy...manage other peoples very expensive projects. I made it a money thing.

I get $1200/year for my hobby. I can also devote 10% of my overtime income.

She gets a new car of our mutually decision very 5 years with the same monthly payment after trade in.

I must have at least one of my cars running at all times. She worries about her car...all of it but the car payment.

How about telling the lovely lady that you can't make out in the back seat of a lesser car because most new cars have sculpted seats and almost no room in the back (OK, OK, BMW 7 class or MB S-class excepted).

Safety arguments won't work. Neither will longevity. Nor practicality.

Avoid discussions of logic; this ain't a logical thing for her. Or for you.

What you need is emotional appeal.

How about just saying, "I know it's crazy, darlin', we don't need another old Volvo. But ohh, I really want it..."

Any woman would support that. Because:
(1) It acknowledges her position, which is that buying another 20-yr-old car is nuts; and
(2) eliminates any discussion based on logic (i.e., "convincing," which never works); and
(3) goes to teh heart of it, which is that getting that 240 wagon is a joint decision based on supportive love:

You: I love this car.
She: I want you to be happy.
Both: Let's do this!

P.S. That won't work if $ for car is $ you need for must-do home repair. Or if time that would be spent on 240 is time that's needed for home repair. You know you. And so does she. Don't bother trying to fib.

P.P.S. Got teh phone # for that 240, in case she still says no? We'll give it TLC til after teh divorce.

Hi All

I got this!

"Diamonds are a girl's best friend and 240s are a boy's best friend!"

They both last forever?

I solved my problem by going with a 940
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89 240 wagon, 94 940, 200K, 94 940, 135K

Okay, I'll tell you why.

Please tell your wife you can purchase an automobile for whatever the asking price maybe plus 1000$ to 2000$ or so for the usual used Volvo 240 feeding and caring to make the vehicle a daily driver for her, your family, and the pets (kitties and doggies!) that costs very little to operate, that is way cheaper with absolute and complete insurance coverage (than a car she'd like), is safer than modern cars even though you are not surround by air bags, and is an environmentally sound choice as the carbon produced from manufacturing was about two decades ago, while you motor about in a car that is very environmentally compatible while able to maintain sustained highway velocities.

Yet practical ain't sometimes what a women likes. I was told once my Volvo 240 was not a woman's car; with women that have long acrylic nails as they can get caught on interior things, for example.

You can tell your wife as you care, feed, and treat and restore this Volvo, you'll always be home, you are available for chores and other wifely duties (even though you have your fave NFL football game on Sunday while you are servicing the brake system (new brakes, fluid, turned or new rotors all around). Caring for this car keeps you out of trouble, sober, well practiced and rested for the work week, and it is your bit of pride to stave off 'the man' by caring for perhaps one of the best enduring automobile platforms for the USA import auto hobbyist.

Tell her you are doing it for her, unless you don't want her to drive it. Your wife must see some value in this.

Tell her how she can use in place of what she drives? Does she like driving your current 240? What positive things does she say about it? Think of that when forming the identifying, persuading grammars to your rhetorical appeal. You know your audience, yes?

Tell her it is not some 50 to 70k$ 2013 model year Volvo, BMW, or Mercedes, yet, when you are complete with your new Volvo 240 restore, it is worth as much or more in in-kind value than some new import with. The Volvo 240 wagon is perhaps one of the original SUVs. People look at mine as ratty as it is. The Volvo 240 wagon is a cultural icon, globally.

Ask her what she'd like to see you do with the current Volvo as well as another? You can tell her you'll treat this Volvo 240 more to her liking so she'll like it better. Of course, don't in any way allow the notion to arrive of, "Well, when done with this new 240 wagon, you can rid us of the current one." The goal is to keep all your Volvo 240s, yeah?

Hopefully appeals like simple, practical, value (don't use cheap), and you're doing this for the family (and yourself as a mind clearing hobby and hopefully make other RWD Volvo pals). Hopefully your wife sees some appeal in a Volvo 240.

I can't view any Volvo 240 as valueless. I only get irked by the owners that neglect and leave these 240s alone, forlorn, and left to die.

Hope that helps. This text was all extemporaneous expository.

If I could own more of these RWD Volvos and do nothing but restore them to mechanically reliable condition, I would. For a living or as a result of being socially secure. The carpal tunnel creeps in doing mechanic work quite quickly, now. I could be a Volvo 240 or RWD Volvo savior doing savior work in upstate Washington near lovely Bellingham.

Questions and comments?

Thanks,

MacDuff (without buttermilk)
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Cats like cheese. And then the cats cut the cheese! Stilton's revenge.

Great question! We have 3 240s, 2 wagons and a sedan. I will say sometimes my wife gets a little tired of it, especially in 100 degree weather, with the less than ideal AC.

My wife loves to drive the 5 speed wagon and I painted it for her and we call it her car, which it is really.

The clincher came when someone at the swanky local mall offered to buy it and they were driving a Lexus. They said they love them.

She has laid down the law. No more until we get a new refrigerator!

How unfortunate for you it wasn't your wife's idea in the first place. I probably would have never strayed beyond Chevy-Ford-Mopar but for the volvo family I married into.
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Art Benstein near Baltimore

A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.

Tell her it just followed you home!
Dan

Tell her that some 240 nuts (like me) have 4! So 2 ain't all that bad!

http://www.brickboard.com/GALLERY/volvopic.htm?id=10694
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1993 240, 1992 240GL, 1985 240DL Wagon, 1983 240DL

This is one of the best reasons I can think of: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=263375

Might have to be a member to see the thread.