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What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994








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    What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994

    Ten US quarts.
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      What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994

      Thanks very much, John








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        What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994

        You probably know this, but I thought I'd mention it anyway for the benefit of others as there is so much pre-mixed coolant being sold.

        It is virtually impossible to completely drain the cooling system. There will always be residual flushing water and/or old (dead) coolant in the system. The re-fill capacity will thus be less than the rated capacity and sometimes surprisingly so, depending on the efforts you go to drain the system. So if you top up with a pre-mix, you will actually end up with less than the desired protection.

        As an example, if the rated capacity is 10 US quarts (9.5 litres) you may only end up adding, say, 6.6 quarts. Using a 50/50 pre-mix, rather than putting in the needed 5 quarts of fresh anti-freeze, you would only be putting in 3.3 quarts, effectively a 33% mix. The proper way to re-fill is in two steps. First put in straight anti-freeze measured to one half the rated capacity. Then top up with distilled/demineralized water. You will then have the true protection of a 50/50 mix. Pre-mix is fine for later top up.
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        Dave -940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








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          What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994

          "There will always be residual flushing water and/or old (dead) coolant in the system."

          Just a comment, more than a disagreement, Dave.

          If the residual "liquid" (usually only about 2 quarts in my minimal 940 experience) is "dead" coolant, I believe it's anti-freeze is still OK, although the anti-rust and lube properties may be gone.

          In this case (assuming 2 qts of old 50% mix), adding 8 qts of new 50/50 pre-mix would result in the correct overall 50% anti-freeze, but the anti-rust and lube content would be reduced by 20%.

          That's been my gamble for about 19 years of B230 coolant changes, mostly 240.
          And that 50/50 mix makes for pricey water, so I don't use it.


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          Bruce Young, '93 940-NA (current), 240s (one V8), 140s, 122s, since '63.








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            What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994

            Bruce, One good comment deserves another.

            Gambling with your cooling system for all those years? Tsk! Tsk! Such heresy should not be permitted on this board. We all know you should never deviate from the green stone tablets passed down from Gothenburg, but then I've known people running just with water even during the winter -now that's gambling.

            In my temperate coastal zone, rust, scale and water pump protection are equally, if not more important to me as temperature protection. For the interest of others, the normal 50/50 glycol mix gives freeze protection to about -34degF/-37degC and boilover protection to about 265degF/130degC. For harsh corners of the world, a 70/30 mix protects from about -82F/-63C to about 275F/135C. A 40/60 mix only protects down to about -10F/-23C, adequate perhaps in many climates, but most car and coolant manufacturers say anything less than a 50/50 mix gives less than ideal corrosion protection. For a simple drain and re-fill, like you said, the 40/60 fresh mix (50/50 coolant mix) achieved has little or no effect on temperature protection, but you are admittedly sacrificing some corrosion protection.

            In my case, I'm often overdue by the time I get around to doing a flush. Long life coolants were made for people like me. So I do a fairly thorough job to appease my guilt. I'll use a pre-flush additive to loosen the scale if I think it's warranted. If I'm in the mood to attack the heater hose, I normally do a reverse flush with one of those adapters. I normally don't keep the adapter in place as I typically want it for the next car and don't have a spare plus I don't trust aging plastic in a hot engine compartment. The upshot of all that is I'm refilling a system with virtually no old antifreeze. My hypothetical retained fluid scenario (admittedly concocted to 6.6 quarts to give a simple 1/3rd result) isn't too far off my experience with my 740/940's, although I do vaguely recall my 140/240's not being so retentive. But as I said, it depends on how much effort I put into draining the system -like having the car level, blowing out the heater core and waiting for the last drop.

            I no longer run the engine to push out the last bit of fluid as I don't want the water pump to run dry. I do rather dread flushing as I have flashbacks to a few previous efforts where the water pump failed within the following months. That's why I'm a bit more careful now. I'm not one for using sealant additives, but I have been known to dump in a little water pump lubricant at the first hint of a squeal.

            So, I'd say over our mutual 19 years experience, we've each developed our own habits, they seem to work for us and the end result probably isn't significantly different.
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            Dave -940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








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          What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994

          Dave,

          I was converting this car to Zerex GO5 and wanted to know how much I needed to start with to get a 50/50 mix. I did a couple of clean water flushes and knew I would be "retaining water".

          I could never figure out why they started packaging 50/50 mix- you know that had to be confusing and some people had to be hurt by it during northern cold snaps.

          Randy








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            What is the cooling system capacity on a 1994 940T? NMI 900 1994

            Why the 50/50 mix? Because the manufacturers can sell less antifreeze for more money. The 50/50 mix goes for about 80% of what 100%, doesn't it?
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              one possible reason to use pre mix 900 1994

              May I offer it's also hard to get distilled water. Electrolysis between the head and iron block will cause the minerals to leach out at the head gasket causing blockage. This is five years without a flush and using tap water to replenish a slow leak. (and how I got a free car)



              and thanks for expanding on the refill process, I need that information this weekend when reassembling this project.








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                one possible reason to use pre mix 900 1994

                If you're in an area where your water source is primarily from surface water then good old tap water is generally considered an adequate dilutant for modern antifreeze. Ground (well/spring) water is typically too hard unless it's heavily treated. There are lots of Internet articles on this topic -look under boiler systems.

                You can use the voltmeter in the coolant test to determine if your coolant is losing its anti-electrolysis protection. Maintaining all the engine ground connections is also important in that regard.
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                Dave -940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now







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