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Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

According to the various Volvo manuals I have, the 740 wagons all have a 60 litre tank. I have on occasions run the tank very low before filling up but only managed to put about 35 litres (max) of petrol in. After filling up, the fuel gauge reads full (the needle passes the end of the scale). I have also (accidentally) run the tank dry a couple of times - both times the car stalled when out of gas and the fuel gauge read empty (in the red).

So either the 740 doesn't have a 60 litre tank, or Volvo litres are different to British litres, or there's a problem. I guess it's the latter.

Any thoughts welcome.

William








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    Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

    are u sure the fuel pickup/ gauge float are installed properly ?
    the whole assembly might be misaligned such that it is not in the lowest possible position. this would cause your gas gauge to read wrong and also you will run out of fuel even though the tank is not empty.
    if you remove the carpeted panel directly behind the seats you will see a round steel plate where the fuel lines and wires go into the tank. there should be an alignment mark on the plate that should align with the seam in the fuel tank.
    if it doesn't get a strap wrench and loosen the big plastic ring, align the plate and tighten it up.

    if its aligned properly you probably have a wrong fuel gauge and prepump problems

    if you are really eager you can run your tank almost empty and siphon the rest out and measure it or look inside the tank by pulling the pump.
    oh yeah, don't smoke while you do it ;)

    btw the most i ever got out of my tank was 48L. if you get that low the car hesitates beacuse the fuel gushes and the pump takes in air
    --
    Canadian 1988 745 320k km B230F LH 2.2 EZ-117K AW70 Bendix/ATE no ABS








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    Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

    When I bought my 1990 745 18 months ago it seemed my gas gauge was wildly inaccurate. When I filled the tank the needle would peg the top and then I filled it after the gauge hit the red zone it took only ~8 gallons or ~30 liters. I knew by my records I was getting 25mpg, so I wasn't worried (lots of gas left in the tank I thought) and I knew about inaccurate Volvo gas gauges, since this was my second Volvo. One day while driving with what I thought was a 1/2 full tank (needle in the red zone) the wagon hesitated and stumbled while merging on a Interstate on ramp in heavy traffic at high speed. Very scary. I managed to drive the car to a gas station and my fill was only 9.5 gallons, 36L. Two minor annoyances that I had notice about this car now made sence. 1) occasionally in a tight turn with a low tank the car would slightly hesitate and 2) occasionally while turning I could hear a very high pitched whine, a wheel bearing or differential bearing I thought. Wrong, the car was hesitating because the in tank fuel pump was sucking air and the fuel pump was whining because it wasn't lubricated by the gasoline and was on its way to failure.

    Several weeks later the fuel pump did fail and I replaced it myself. (For clarification the wagon has the Rex/Regina system. There is only one fuel pump and it is in the tank) I found that a PO had work done to the fuel pump previously (the wiring harness had been cut and crimped inside and outside the tank) This is the only Rex/Regina I've worked on and I didn't have a stock system to compare it with, but I suspect that the fuel pump/sender assembly was replaced at some time with an assembly from the junkyard and came from a different model year, a 740 sedan, or maybe a 760. **I don't think the pickup reaches the bottom of the tank and I think the sender is designed for a differently shaped tank.** I've had zero problems with the pump I put in and I never let the gas gauge inter the red zone before filling.








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      Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

      The situation you are describing is generally caused by the rubber hose connecting the in tank pump to the solid line failing . Do some reading here : http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/FuelSystem.htm
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      -------Robert, '93 940t, '90 240 wagon, '84 240 diesel (she's sick) , '80 245 diesel, '86 740 GLE turbo diesel, '92 Ford F350 diesel dually








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        Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

        The FAQs about the in tank rubber hose failing apply only to the two pump Bosch system, not the one pump Rex/Regina system. The two systems operate in different modalities. The Rex system _pushes_ gas out of the tank and the Boasch system _sucks_ gas out of the tank.








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    Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

    Have you measure how much it took to fill after running dry? I've found that there is quite a bit of fuel when both my cars (one has the 80 litre tank) read in the reserve. The 60 litre car has taken 55L (14+ gal) without running out.

    If you have the older type metal tank, it could be crushed and therefore smaller.








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      Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

      Never seen one with a metal tank. The 86 sedan I parted out had a plastic tank of the same dimensions as a 90 (minor differences in interior baffles only) The owners manual says 60L/15.8 US gallons. I've put well over 14 gallons in mine a couple of times, at which point the gauge needle was at the bottom of the red zone.








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      Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

      The owner's manual says that there is still 12 litres remaining when the needle touches the red. So, there wouldn't have been more than 45l in the tank.








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        Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

        I do not understand what your reference to 45L means. Your post says you've not been able to put in more than 35L.








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          Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

          The 35 litres was the maximum I have been able to put into the tank when filling up. But when the fuel gauge goes into the red zone there is no more than 12l remaining in the tank. So, I approximately added the 35l to 12l to make about 45l. So, becuase the fuel gauge was on the red when I put 35l in, there couldn't have been more than 45l in the tank after filling up.
          My figures are only approximated since I look at the pounds going up rather than the litres on the pump's display, but in England a litre of fuel costs about 96p/litre for super unleaded. I've never paid more than about £35 for fuel which is where my 35l comes from.

          Anyway, next time the fuel gauge reads low, i'll lift up the hatch in the boot to see how much fuel is left.

          Thanks
          William








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            Really a 60 litre tank? 700 1986

            You're relying on the gauge plus the estimation of 12L when it hits red. If you had filled up right after running the car dry, you'd probably find that the car took a whole lot more than you would have expected.

            More than one of us has been often running down to 14+ gallons (in the red for a while) without running out of gas. Much more than you're estimating for your car.







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