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Swap 14' tires for 15' on new '88 740 GLE? 700

Just bought new 121K mile '88 740 GLE to replace my retiring '89 740 GL w/276K miles. I notice that the '88 has 14" tires, not the 15" as on my "89. Don't know why Volvo would change tire size on what is essentially the same car. Both vehicles are regular automatic tranny 4 cylinders.

Questions: If I choose to swap tires before disposing of the old '89, will the 15" '89 wheels mount on the '88 hubs? If so, which size is preferable, 14' or 15'? Won't the different tire size make a difference in MPG and speedometer/odometer readings? Will the ride/handling characteristics vary?

The rubber is good on all tires, and I do have a couple of spare 15' tires already mounted in my garage. My cheapskate side considers this a plus.

FYI, the "new" GLE cost me $1500, and is in great shape. The venerable '89 was my wife's purchase w/62K several years ago for $3,000, and I figure another $4,000 in repairs and maintenance over 214,000 miles of use. A little frustrating at times, but we got ours money's worth. Hope the new one is as good.

This board is a great resource. Look forward to your advice. Thanks.








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    Different rotor diameters -- changed from '88 to '89 ??? 700

    You asked, "...will the 15" '89 wheels mount on the 14" '88 hubs?..."

    Yes, the larger wheels will fit on the earlier car -- you just have to account for speedometer error (depending on tire size).

    But there was a change in rotor size at some time (year), which required the increase in wheel size -- you can't put the '88 car's 14" wheels on any car with the larger brakes if you want to sell it to someone!

    The BIG question is when did that brake rotor change take place. I don't know that year....
    If the '89 has the changed, larger rotors, you'll need to get another set of 15" wheels with tires just to sell the car!
    If the '89 still has the smaller rotors (same size as your '88), then there's no problem!

    Good luck.










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      Different rotor diameters -- changed from '88 to '89 ??? 700

      "The BIG question is when did that brake rotor change take place. I don't know that year...."

      There isn't any specific year when they changed from one rotor size to another. It depends on the options package of the car. One of the only assurances that it will require 15" wheels is that if the car has ABS brakes, it will have the jumbo rotors. If look through the Volvo 700/900 brakes service manual, it will list the different brake packages that could have been equipped on the various cars in a year-by-year layout. Needless to say, there are a LOT of caliper and rotor combinations that could have been equipped on them. However, the large diameter rotors were usually not equipped to the earlier '84 through '88-ish vehicles unless they had ABS. I don't have the books in front of me, but I believe it may have been around 1989 or 1990 that Volvo started equipping the larger rotors on the cars from the factory (but it depends on what options the car was equipped with). Also, there's a chance that the earlier cars could have the later large brakes on them if they were changed under warranty or upgraded at a dealership. -there are several TSBs that cover this operation.

      Also, if you have two wheel/tire sets off the car and want to make a rough comparison of sizes, stand one of each next to each other. If the total tire height is pretty close to each other, there will probably not be any significant difference in speedometer accuracy. The accuracy of the speedometer is not determined by if you have 14" or 15" wheels on the car, it's determined by the size of the tires mounted to the wheels. For example, I have 195/70R15 tires on 15" Omega wheels on my 240 that I use for summer driving. My winter tires are 195/80R14 snow tires on 14" Dersus wheels. Thus when I have my 15" wheels on, my speedometer reads a few mph fast, and when the 14" wheels are on, it reads about 2 mph slow. Take the factory tire size on the tire placard (on the inside of the driver's door or the underside of the lid in the center armrest) which is what your speedo is calibrated for, and plug it into the tire calculator with the new tire size you're planning to use and it will tell you how much (if any) your speedometer will be off.

      God bless,
      Fitz Fitzgerald.
      --
      '87 Blue 240 Wagon, 270k miles.
      '88 Black 780, PRV-6, 149k miles.








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    Wheel sizes & Tire Calculator. (Swap 14' tires for 15' on new '88 740 GLE?) 700

    You can take a 15" or 16" wheel from a 740 and put it on another 740 that originally came with 14" wheels. The bolt patern for all rear-wheel drive Volvos is the same from sometime in the '60s through the mid-90s so you have a lot of wheel options available. Moving up to a bigger wheel isn't a problem, and it will firm up the ride a bit (with a slight sacrafice to comfort in going over harsh bumps/potholes). Swap some wheels and try it out.

    However, if a 740/760 has ABS brakes on it or the late model "jumbo" rotors, it would have come stock with 15" wheels and a 14" wheel would not fit on it (the inside of the wheel would strike the caliper).

    Regarding issues with the speedometer accuracy, this depends on the circumfrence of the tire. You can plug in the tire sizes from each set of tires into an online tire calculator and determine how much difference there will be. Be sure to check the door tags for each vehicle and find out what the factory original size is supposed to be, -you may already have a discrepancy.
    http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

    God bless,
    Fitz Fitzgerald.
    --
    '87 Blue 240 Wagon, 270k miles.
    '88 Black 780, PRV-6, 149k miles.








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    Swap 14' tires for 15' on new '88 740 GLE? 700

    While most of the 89 non turbo cars that I have seen come with steel rims vs the 88 which has alumiuim wheels. The alloy wheels are big plus in my eyes, no hubcaps to loose. Why not keep the steel rims when the 89 is junked and they you can try both and see what you like better.








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      Swap 14' tires for 15' on new '88 740 GLE? 700

      Both the "new" '88 and the old '89 have hubcaps. Neither has the distinctive wheel rims that I have seen on some other Volvos.

      Still wondering-should/can I switch 15' wheels to the new acquisition? Any benefit either way?







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