Hi Mark - What I meant is that the steps you use, of the three methods I asked about, seem *most similar* to those in the the file that MIJ has been advertising here. A second method, removing the hub/knuckle loose from the strut, is the way I saw the indie do it, and you as an informed source have confirmed my suspicion it is for people who are into pain. The last method is the one I was able to make work at the time, removing the control arm frame bolts.

Here is a quote from MIJ's file:
[Remove link arm from anti-roll bar. Remove nuts securing suspension arm to ball joint. Remove suspension arm from ball joint. Twist and remove MaPherson strut.]

From what you wrote, this sounds similar to your method if I understand it. I was confused when they said "Remove nuts" because there is a bolt/nut securing the bottom joint, so I thought maybe they meant take off the tie rod end ball joint also. "Remove Macpherson strut" now I see doesn't mean literally take it out. I understand the clear steps you gave me (and clarification on this last ball joint question - my first thought was hit the end of the stupid thing with a hammer).

I in no way at all meant to question the methods of an experienced mechanic and FWIW am not looking to question "what is the best technique", just a method that works. A method is ok, but much better with tips from people like you. Thanks again. Regards, Don