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my other cars have some gap in splash shield so I can measure the rotor in place.

Do a search on this board or elsewhere regarding replacing Volvo brakes/rotors. You will find a lot of posts, and many recommendations that you replace the pads and rotors at the same time. Most people don't see resurfacing 850 rotors as an option, even if they are thick enough. Leaves a non uniform metal structure (even though it is smooth) Some people replace the rotors every other set of pads. I did my rear pads and rotors for around $110. There are the "use Volvo OEM only" folks and the "use third party folks". I used Brembo rotors and third party pads. A mechanic on this board wished me luck and warned he has had trouble with non-OEM parts coming back squeaking. I can tell you that after 5000 miles mine started sqeaking (just a bit, but it is there). You were right, Mark! After this experience I may go OEM next time. It is an EASY job. Look over at Bay13 on volvospeed. Tell the dealer "no, thanks".






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