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Bent Valve(s) 1996 Volvo 850 850

Recently I passed a car at high revs though I don't know if the engine "overevved" (an automatic - can it?). Immediately after, the engine ran rough. It was diagnosed as low compression on #2, head taken off, bent valve, machined, valve replaced, reassembled, ran OK. Belt did not appear to have jumped and tensioner was inspected and tested and said to be OK. 600 miles later after travelling on a highway at 65 mph, no high revs, pulled on to an off ramp, engine ran rough. Took it back to shop. Low compression on #1. Bent or sticking valve?

Anyone got any insight or suggestions as to a) what's happening and b) comments on whether the two events are connected or just plain bad luck?

One other clue or red herring. When head was reassembled and timing belt put back on - when timing marks on crankshaft and camshafts were aligned #1 cylinder was not at TDC. Is that correct?








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    Bent Valve(s) 1996 Volvo 850 850

    My 94 turbo had a similar problem. It appears on 850's that if the engine oil is not maintained, I know, we all maintain our engine oil. But if the oil breaks down it can cause the lifters to stick the valves slightly open. I know, when I heard this I said no way. My car lost compression in every cylinder. The starter would just turn over. Compression was less than 100 in every cylinder. I was thinking I jumped the timing belt. The car did this at idle. It started then stopped, when I turned the key again nothing.

    The solution, is to charge your battery, hook up a battery charger, hold your foot to the floor and turn the key. As the Volvo tech told me it could take as long as 5 minutes to start. I got mine started and it had a big miss. I drained the oil and ran ATF in it for a good hour, at idle and low RPM's. The ATF acts as a detergent and will clean the sticky lifters. I used a low weight quailty oil and the problem has disappeared.

    So in closing, it might be something as simple as your oil.








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      Bent Valve(s) 1996 Volvo 850 850

      I wish it had been so simple. Turns out it was a pice of loose foreign material, a bolt, that had somehow found it's way into the "machinery" up in the valve and cam area. Don't really know what it looks like physically I just have a basic image of a generic camshaft with valves and springs.

      The theory is that the bolt dislodged and whacked the first valve. After it was repaired the bolt was not spotted so a week later it moves agian and whacks the second valve. Who would have thunk?








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    Bent Valve(s) 1996 Volvo 850 850

    The first time, I'd believe 1 burned valve but not 1 bent valve (out of 20). I've seen an occasional burned valve on those engines and there's also a reason for it. If valve timing is off enough for valves to hit, several valves hit, not just one.
    The 2nd time? Still...one valve doesn't just stick or bend BUT could burn where it seats and cause low compression. It shouldn't be happening right after the head was removed.
    It'll cost you but I'd get another experienced opinion from a shop that knows those engines such as (preferably) a Volvo dealer.

    IF valves are burning, you should switch to a good synthetic oil after it's repaired again.








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    Bent Valve(s) 1996 Volvo 850 850 1995

    Make sure you are looking at the original marks on the sprackets. Some mechanics
    have a bad habit to change timing belt in the position "as is" and make their own marks. Bring first cylinder to TDC and use good light to check marks on the sprackets.
    94 850T second engine - due to bent valves.
    Good lock,
    Joe








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    Bent Valve(s) 1996 Volvo 850 850

    well, if cylinder #1 wasn't at TDC, then the timing belt wasn't aligned. I would expect this caused your problem if you revved high (not necessarily over revved since it was out of sync). It's odd that it took 600 miles before you hit that though...I would expect that would have happened immediately. How did you know it wasn't aligned at TDC? These are zero tolerance engines which means if not aligned right, the pistons hit the valves and bent them.








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      Bent Valve(s) 1996 Volvo 850 850

      I didn't do the work but the shop that did it said that when the timing marks on the camshafts and crankshaft were lined up the #1 cylinder piston was not at TDC. They said that to get it to TDC the crankshaft had to be turned about another 10 degrees. They asked the Volvo dealer about it and the dealer mechanic said he followed the markings only and didn't seem to have checked or thought of checking the piston position which left the repair shop wondering if this was just some weird Volvo design.

      From the message threads it looks as though the #1 piston should have been at TDC when the timing marks were all in line and the fact that they weren't likely caused the second failure.

      I'm guess I'm now as surprised as others seem to be that the engine ran for 600 miles.







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