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Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

I was thinking this morning on the way to work. I recently read about the new Honda hybrid Accord uses a system to shut down 3 of the 6 cylinders when loads are light. How could I do this with my Classic Volvos. Then it hits me. We have electric fuel injection control for each cylinder. Why not insert a switch in the power to the one or two cylinder's fuel injector. This would stop fuel to that cylinder and the others would continue to work. Fuel consumption would drop. The switch could be turned on when power is needed again. (new thought while writing use - use vacuum signal to turn the power on/off as needed!) The heavy flywheel of these engines would smooth out the power flow.

Any thoughts? Would this work? What would go wrong?








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    Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

    It's been tried before, but to work, the intake valve has to remain closed to prevent the compression load. In addition, the injector lives in the intake manifold passage and not in the cylinder. If you shut off an injector the cylinder will still be getting a small amount of fuel from the other cylinders and will tend to fire in a too lean condition. If fuel economy is the order of the day, then diesel is the answer for a heavy car. A volvo diesel wagon will get 28-30 mpg if you can stand the lack of acceleration and hill climbing ability. I also had a friend that tried removing 2 pistons from a Chevy v8, using a cut-off connecting rod bottom end as a spacer and oil stopper. The engine ran but all but left the car due to vibration. Major disaster with good intentions. Probably the best of all worlds would be to use a 4 cylinder industrial diesel engine with a lot of boost from a turbo. Moody did this back in the 70's and got 45+ mpg, but was shut down by the engine manufacturer (Perkins 4-108) because they didn't want to dance with our illustrious EPA. Hopefully gas prices will stay high and spurn development of modern diesels again. Plain physics-higher compression yields higher efficiency...enough ranting.








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    Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

    Reminds me of those horribly designed Caddilac machines from the 80's that would run on 4, 6, or 8 cylinders depending on the load. What a hunk of crap! If you love your "classic Volvo" as you call them, and you want it to last forever as an example of good sense, taste, and refinement (ha!) then don't succumb to the fashions and trends of the day. This gasoline nonsense, although quite a shock right now, will soon pass over much like it had in the 60's 70's 80's and early 90's. A change of the socio-political landscape should cure it. Your "classic Volvo" won't be much of a classic if you convert the drivetrain in an reactionary attempt to keep up with the times. It would make as much sense as affixing 22" chrome wheels with spinners (Dubs) on an Amazon.








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    Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

    The engines that do this are designed for the feature and have valve trains that adapt to eliminate compression on the cylinders that drop out. just cutting the fuel would still leave you dragging 2 holes against the compression. Pull 2 plug wires and see how the car runs. I'ts a good idea, but sadly it won't work on our primitive red blocks.
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    Dave Shannon
    Spring Valley, California
    '67 1800s
    '73 1800ES
    '88-240
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      Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

      When I had a '71 Ford LTD Wagon w/ 400 cu. inch engine I tried pulling 4 plug wires to test running on 4 cylinders. Awful. If I recall, it ran so badly I didn't even try backing out of the driveway.

      Suggestions on this board re. using 933 ECUs and also electric cooling system fans from some 940/960s and 850s seem to make more sense.








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        Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

        Yep, the 940T fan is my next mod, I'm also looking for a good AW-70L at the local pick and pulls, the lockup really helps on the freeway.

        Bottom line is the only way to get good mileage out of a tank like a 240 is have a stick and drive it with some restraint, something I'm just not very good at.
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        Dave Shannon
        Spring Valley, California
        '67 1800s
        '73 1800ES
        '88-240
        my pages








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          Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

          I don't know what "good milage" really means....I rebuilt the head on mine and it has an auto...and I can see anywhere from 25-27mpg given ideal conditions....21-22 in the mountains....I think that is pretty good for a 338,000 mile car with the aerodynamics of a cinderblock....








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        Run a 4 cylinder Volvo on 2 cylinders? 200

        Dave is right.....those 2 non-firing slugs will seriously hurt you...it really wouldn't supprise me if you got worse economy....As you will recall the caddy 8-6-4 model was larely made into an 8 only by those who insisted on keeping them. Don't forget the fact that without firing on all cyls there will be different harmonics and loading of the crankshaft....not good...the main jurnals and connecting rod jurnals will probably wear quicker onm on the working cyls then on the non-running one....In other words this is a horrible idea...(i am currious to hear exactly what goes to hell if you try it though). The new car engines are in no way aimed at people who want there engines to last like your old brick's mill. Today a 5 year old 100,000 car is high milage, old, riden hard and put away wet....etc...people keep them for a short time and dump them. This is not to say that engines have not come lightyears in durability from the days of my 1968 firebird with it's 400 cube poncho mill....anyone remember when plugs needed to be changed or gapped every 10,000 miles? If you want great milage....one term springs to mind "common rail direct injected turbo diesel"....it's the waive of the future in my humble opinion...anyone see that new E-class Benz diesel? 40mpg in a fullsized car....not bad even for a krautmobile.....keep us posted on the injection shut-down idea....good luck







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