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Front Sway Bar Mounts 120-130

I've just installed a new front sway bar on my 122. Unfortunately one of the threads for the LHF mount has broken away from chassis. The problem is that the bolt is still in "nut" which in jammed in the chassis rail. The mount wasn't fully tightened, I now can't loosen it because I can't grip the other end and I feel that if I cut the bolt I won't get the rest of it out of the chassis rail.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to solve this problem?
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Alex Shevlin (Sydney): '71 142S, '72 144S, '81 244GLE, '81 244GL, '01 V70XC








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    Alex --

    I had this same thing happen and was able to fix it with no welding. In my case, I drilled a hole through the top of the frame member to get access to the busted-off captive nut. If you want to try this, here are the steps as I remember them:

    - Mark the position of the nut on the top of the (hollow) frame member.
    - Centerpunch this location
    - Get an approx. 1" dia hole saw (yes they will drill metal), a long extension shaft (home depot, about $20), and a drill capable of low speed.
    - Use this setup to drill a hole in the top of the member (working through the engine compartment). Use oil as you cut the hole to keep the saw sharp.
    - Once you have the hole, you can use a socket to grab the nut. Loosen and remove it (I don't recommend using the bolt you've got. Once it's busted loose it'll probably pull through with no reinforcement).
    - Clean up and pound flat the site of the former captive nut.
    - Get a grade 8 washer, lockwasher, and matching nut and bolt of appropriate length (use the biggest washer you can, and add a second if necessary to fit the bolt).
    - Drop in the bolt and washer from above through the 1" hole and then through the hole left by the captive nut (magnet is good for this).
    - Carefully attach the bracket from below, add nut, and tighten. This is best done with a helper, one working above, one below.

    In my case I got picky and used the nut above and the bolt below. Big waste of time chasing the nut and washer around inside the frame member. Also, one caveat is that this method works easily on either the front or the back bracket bolt (can't remember which). The other one might or might be tough.

    Best of luck...

    Jordan Singer (1967 122S)








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      I think I'm going to try the non-welding approach first. I've already tried to capture the nut with a screw driver and other various implement but to no avail.

      I guess I'll have to cut into the rail and hold it properly.

      Thanks to everyone for the replies!

      Alex.
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      Alex Shevlin (Sydney): '69 122S, '72 144S, '87 Merc 190D








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        Alex --

        I just checked my vehicle, and it's the rear nut that's accessable through the engine compartment. Depending on how your sheetmetal lines up, the front nut may be accessable by drilling a hole in the frame member just in front of the radiator bulkhead. If you make a hole there, probably a good idea to seal it up afterwards (1" rubber plug). Good Luck...

        - Jordan








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    If I understand the problem correctly you have a captive nut inside the rail that has broken loose. If that is the case you can sometimes move the bolt by putting pressure on the nut against its original seating position. A nut on the bolt and a screwdriver pushed against the frame can work. I would be tempted to try to tighten the bolt up first. If you take the bolt out you are still left with a loose captive nut inside the rail. The only other option I can think of is to try to epoxy the nut in place. Given the dirty/rusty nature of frame rails that might be a long shot. And, of course, you might inadvertently glue the bolt to the nut....








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      The pictures in Ron Kwas's link are excellent. You could use the same procedure to repair just the front if you wanted to (but doing both ends at the same time might pay off in the long run). If the nut is seized onto the bolt, your best choice is going to be to cut it off. Don't worry about the remains being in the framerail. You are going to have to enlarge the original hole in order to fit the new nut into it anyway. After the hole is enlarged, put a magnet onto a piece of flexible wire to retrieve the remains. Purchase the correct bolt, nut and washer and take them to a welder or a friendly autobody shop. Have them weld the nut to the washer and then the nut/washer combo to the car.

      Chris








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    Can you drill through it endwise?
    Oil it up good first and maybe the drill will grab and screw it on through.
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    George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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    Alex;

    It sounds lik there's some cutting and welding in your future...

    I had a single bolt rip out...my (or should I say "Burner Welding"s") fix for an upgrade do dual bolts might be of interest. See: http://www.intelab.com/swem/nagging%20clunk.htm

    Greetings from New England!







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