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120 steering box in a 140 ? 140-160

I have this vague recollection of reading somewhere that a 120 series steering box has a "faster" ratio than a 140 one .... is this correct, and are they interchangeable ?

Just wondering whether it might be a good way to quicken up the steering on the rally car .... ie. fewer turns lock-to-lock.

Anyone out there in Brickboard-land know the answer ?

Dave
1974 142S "Erik the Red"
Melbourne, Australia








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You can fit the slighty longer 164 idler & pitman arms to the 144. You just have to file the master spline out the pitman arm.








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oooooh! Cool, I need to find me a 164 then...
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Kyle - '68 142? - Oregon Volvo Tuners?








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mmmm ..... I was obviously dreaming !

Seemed like a good simple idea at the time .... thanks for the input guys.

Next task is fitting the 6 gauge R-Sport gauge cluster (maybe this weekend) ... hopefully that will go smoothly & all the wires will make sense !

Have also scored some 145 springs for the back ..... just have to find some stiffer (NOT lowered) ones for the front now. Anyone know what the "free length" of a standard 140 front spring is ? It's about the only specification that isn't in the workshop manual ....

Dave








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the front 140 springs are 10.5" and a rate of #300 with one inch of pre load.








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Thanks Fidel

by "#300", do you mean 300 lbs/inch ?








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I don't know, but the 1800 boxes are a lot quicker ratio than the Amazon boxes.








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Hmmm... every data sheet or road test that I've ever seen for the 1800 or the Amazon indicated 3.25 turns lock to lock. The 1800 has a slightly smaller turning circle (30 vs 32 feet), but that can be accounted for by the 6 inch shorter wheelbase. I always thought the steering components were very similar, if not the same.
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Gary Learned - '71 142E ITB / '73 1800ES / '02 S60 T5








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Hmmmm, myself... now I wonder where I got that info. I know that my '67 1800S sure feels a lot quicker than our '66 122S, with similar suspension mods, alignment settings and tire sizes. After driving only the 1800 for two years while restoring the Amazon, I remember being really surprised at how much I had to turn the 122's wheel to go around a corner once I started driving it again.

The steering shafts are certainly not interchangeable. Hmmmmm.








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Suggest you look at both and then decide. You can swap but it is NOT a bolt-in.
The 140/164 box is a LOT bigger, especially the power steering box.
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George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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For additional fun, the 140 and 164 boxes don't interchange either without some work.








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Don't know, but I see V-Performance is working on a rack 'n pinion kit. There are a few new developments for this year, including a 2.5L B20.







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