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Hi all,
What are the experiences here with the polyurethane bushings?
I'm looking into getting them, or actually are allready in the process of ordering them at IPD.
In the last few days I asked around in my country (netherlands) how people feel about them. I did not get a single positive response: all saying it will make too harsh a ride. I can see how the harder bushings will make a little harder ride, but I cannot imagine it will be catastrophic. People here also said it would be hard on the balljoints etc. I also do not see the link here.
I've got some lowered progressive springs for my car and though it would be good to use poly bushings with that. I will procede with it anyhow (stubborn as I am), but how do the you people who currently use the poly's think about them?
Cheers, Ben
(Also, I have contact with IPD, but they probably won't have all the bushings available in poly, is there a place where I could get the ones that IPD cannot provide?)
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P131, '65, B20B+M47. P131, '69, B20E+AW71L+LSD. (www.tinustechniek.tk)
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posted by
someone claiming to be erik
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Fri Jan 21 03:03 CST 2005 [ RELATED]
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I drive my wagon a lot and it has all new poly bushings, springs, shocks and it rides fine on rough roads, better than when it had worn rubber bushings for comparison.
the life of the poly bushings was a big sell for me.
-Erik
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Well here is my 2 cents. I have 2 122s, one with orginal style rubber, and the other with IPD poly. I much prefer the rubber, and so do other vintage volvo owners I've polled since installing the poly. The poly produces a notably harsher ride, especially in fridged winter conditions. The rubber provides a smoother, more nicely dampened ride.
I would say this, however, that I am not into performance. If you're into racing, the poly is what you want.
A combination of the two may be interesting, however, and I would be interested in hearing a discussion about which ones to make poly and which rubber ;-).
Mark Sloo
Minneapolis, MN
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I'm a big believer in Poly bushes. They locate the rear-end in particular much better than the stock rubber do.
IPD's kit is the best compromise for ride quality/economy and the v-performance is the most complete kit. If you do get the IPD kit order four extra upper a-arm bushes (each bush is a half-piece) to do the panhard bar as they are MUCH easier to install than the stock garbage supplied in their kit!
Increased wear on the other components is silly. More harshness over rough surfaces, well, yes, but not nasty.
The lowered progressive springs are great and as long as you don't go to too low-profile of a tire or too heavy of a tire/wheel combo (which IMHO is the biggest reason for harshness).
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Mike!
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I think poly bushings are just great -- a real handling improvement, much longer lasting, and I don't notice any increase in ride harshness at all.
Another source is Vintage Performance Developments.
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If IPD doesn't furnish them in an alternative material they are probably not
necessary or desirable. The only ones I have used is the upper A-frame
bushings and don't notice a harshness but do notice better handling.
Am I correct in thinking you have metal-cased lower A-frame bushings?
If not, (if they are the same as the upper ones) polyurethane might be
good but my choice would be to get newer lower A-frames and go with the
later bushings (66375, I think, or some such).
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George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!
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Ben, perhaps you should have posted on the V44-forum as well....?
Re the poly bushes, I don’t have them on my PV444 (yet), but I do have them for eight years now on my upgraded ’54 Morris Minor and on the rear spring hangers of my ’48 Riley RMA as well. The benefits are more noticeable than the drawbacks (just a very slightly harsher ride) without any doubt. With a Volvo, the results will be similar I suppose, so don’t hesitate and put them on your car. You won’t regret it!
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Hi Gert,
I suppose I could have posted on the V44 forum as well. But as I stated in my first post, the people I spoke to (scandcar, slubo, and just some other volvo-guys) all said I should go for rubber... Which is why I focessed on the expertiece on the brickboard, and which -as allways- has been very helpfull.
In the mean time, I made up my mind, and ordered them. Unfortunatly the car on which I'll be using them won't be finished for quite some time. Sight...
Thanks for your response y'all!
Cheers, Ben
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P131, '65, B20B+M47. P131, '69, B20E+AW71L+LSD. (www.tinustechniek.tk)
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Gert
This message is in relation to your older british cars. I have a 53 land rover series 1 (with only 15033 miles on the clock, it has served since 1959 as a snow removal tool for a local garage, going 800 feet per snow fall, hence the low milage). With your experiance with olde english machinery, would you know the carb adjustments, or be able to point me in the right direction. I have a very slow dial-up connection(the joy's of living in the country, far from the city), so internet searches are slower than the land rover in low gear pushing snow on ice in 2 wheel drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated, apparently old land rovers are not as well liked as old volvo's, not much to be found so far.
Merci
Yvan
PS, It's - 25c and snowing, the land rover starts, runs but is powerless, and slow to rev-up, the point's plugs, cap, rotor and wires are new, it ran fine until I accedently(absent mindedly) put some bad gas in it. My neighbor, who is a mechanic checked the carb and twisted a few adjustments, to no avail. I then remembered where the gas in my gerry can came from(oh &?%$#), drained the tank, changed the filter, filled with premium, and havent been able to set it right since.
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65 122, 73 P1800ES, 79 242GT, 80 262C, 81 242, 87 780,88 745T X2, and a plethora of parts cars and eventually to be finished projects
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Yvan,
Fortunately the problems with your Land Rover don’t make you immobile...;-)
Unfortunately I’m afraid I can’t be of much help solving your carb problem (if that is what ‘s wrong), but assuming you have a Solex carb I suggest you have a look here:
http://www.landrover.ee/est/files/manuals/cars/sI/Manual.pdf
BTW, did you thorougly clean your carb?
And isn't there a Land Rover Club in your country that can help?
Other sites of interest are:
http://www.carsoft.ru/avtorepair/landrover.html
http://www.landrover.net/
http://www.landrover.net/series1/
A Landrover-forum would be helpful of course, but I haven’t found one yet. But there are quite a few Landrover enthusiasts around, so don’t despair. Will let you know if I find one.
Good luck!
PS Don't hesitate to e-mail me off-list.
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