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Transmission Problem? Mount? 200 1989

I have been noticing a problem as of late. Often in reverse and when the car has just been started (really the only time i use reverse, backing out of the driveway or parking spots) i let the clutch out all the way using little to no gas, the car will start to like lurch forward and back. i know i am shifting right because sometimes i will do the same and nothing will happen. to try and provide you with a better idea, it seems like someone is flooring it and then letting off really quick over and over, but the tach doesnt show anyhting, and it is a pretty responsive tach.
Any ideas? I was thinking maybe it was the transmission mount, i just replaced the right side motor mount about 1k miles ago because it had completely rotted through from oil saturation. Clutch is still strong, know this because it downshifts really well. Everyother gear is beautiful, even first when starting out, but i think that is mainly due to the speed of first compared to reverse.

Thank you

Joe
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Blue '89 Volvo 244 DL 5-speed w/ 176k








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    Transmission Problem? Mount? 200 1989

    Well, if it wasn't the M47 5-speed, and an '89, I would think other, but the late model M47 5-speed has a big cast iron counter weight on the end of the clutch yoke. This counterweight can hang up causing the problem you describe. The system uses only the clutch pressure plate spring force for the return of the clutch cable, and does not incorporate a clutch return spring.
    Although the mount may be contributing to the problem (I would replace it for the $8 and be done with it anywy) it is most likely the counterweight is not returning to fully engage the clutch when the pedal is released. There are three reasons why the cable is not returinng, one is the cable is worn and is causing friction, hanging up the yoke/counterweight. Second is that the clutch pressure plate is not as 'springy' as it was when new. This is not uncommon on the M47 to have the pressure plate get soft long before the disc is worn out. The clutch has a very long ingagement, and the spring travel is proportionate to the cable return. I've seen the spring from a worn M47 clutch and the fingers are bent inward. This almost always makes the clutch feel hard, or firmer than a new clutch once you've adjsuted the cable. Third is that the cable and throw-out bearing is in need of adjustment or just lubrication. Also, putting a return spring onto the yoke is something you may what to do. That is what I've done, also removed the counterweight, but will put it back in as soon as I get a new Volvo clutch cable.
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      Transmission Problem? Mount? 200 1989

      Thanks, I did put a return spring on before i replaced the right motor mount because it wasnt coming out all the way, granted of course that didnt, fix the problem. Where is this counterweight? How can i easily find it? I was thinking about adjusting the clutch cable so that it engages right off the floor, will this do anything to maybe help my problem?
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      Blue '89 Volvo 244 DL 5-speed w/ 176k








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    Transmission Problem? Mount? 200 1989

    Joe,

    That's the same problem that my 82 had. It was corrected by fixing my trans mount. If you have the original mounts (engine, trans) it's time to replace them. It will make a differance in the way the car runs.

    Mario








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      Transmission Problem? Mount? 200 1989

      So i went to CarQuest to see how much transmission mounts were and after i gave the guy all my brick specs he says that the transmission mount is only for cars w/o AC. Any idea what he was talking about? He also said that it was the only mount for my car. Did you have this problem? or is it just a glitch or mistake? I know FCP Groton has M47 Transmission mounts Period. Nothing about AC and what not. So confused.
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      Blue '89 Volvo 244 DL 5-speed w/ 176k








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    Transmission Problem? Mount? 200 1989

    I have very much the same symptom in my 88 240, and I'm fairly sure it's the transmission mount. With mine, the shift lever actually moves to the right when I blip the throttle. Even if yours doesn't have this convenient indicator, I'm betting on the transmission mount and possibly the other motor mount. Your throttle on/off symptom sounds like everything is not moving in unison as it should be.

    Good luck.

    Cheers,

    Michael







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