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Time To Replace Clutch? - Symptoms... 200 1981

Been driving my 1981 242 B21F -Non-turbo (m46 manual tranny) around town lately, and every now and then, if I stomp on the gas in 1st or 2nd, the clutch will slip, the engine will rev up and the car will not go any faster. There is a pretty noticable clunk both when it slips and when it re-engages. I can't really tell where the clunk is coming from, either the transmission or driveline. However, the car has no problem climbing hills in 4th and 5th, and only seems to slip when I step on it in 1st or 2nd.

Now that this is happening, I suspect the clutch, could it be oil getting on the clutch plates, or possibly a rear end/differential/driveline problem? Is there a good way to tell before I drop $400-500 on a new clutch?


Side Note: When I bought the car, the clutch pedal was riding low to the floor on it's own, and when I looked underneath, I noticed that the spring had been hooked on BACKWARDS, essentially pulling the clutch down 1/4 of the way to the floor, and thus permenantly riding the clutch. I fixed the spring a long time ago, but I figured that it probably shortened the life of the clutch.

Thanks!








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    Time To Replace Clutch? - Symptoms... 200 1981

    Your symptoms sound more like the OD clutch than the main one.
    The load on the main clutch is greatest in higher, rather than lower gears, opposite of the OD clutch.
    --
    Jim McDonald








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      Time To Replace Clutch? - Symptoms... 200 1981

      I think there are a few tests it's worth doing before you assume the worst.
      Presumably you are absolutely certain the cable is adjusted right (assuming cable not hydraulic operation)?
      It would be worth draining the gearbox and overdrive oil anyway, unless you have already done that. Drain the OD by releasing the cover plate underneath. Inside that is a course mesh filter, and a row of plugs. One of those (can never remember which - see the book) when unscrewed reveals a much finer filter. This can be washed out. There are some magnetic washers too. Slightly overfill (tilt car) with good oil - see previous threads on various synthetics others have recommended.
      Make sure that the OD inhibitor switch really is working, and isn't letting you engage OD in 1 or 2. That would put far too much torque on it.
      If you feel very carefully with your foot in the circumstances when the slipping occurs, you can sometimes sense whether it is the clutch or something else.
      I'm not sure I agree about the symptoms being more like OD slippage. In my experience ODs slip when you try and engage them, not when you put torque through a disengaged OD. But I would say clutch slip is more likely in 1 and 2 as you describe.
      If it only happens in extreme circumstances you could probably live with it for a long while, unless it got worse. Don't let it go on slipping - it will overheat and rapidly burn out.








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        Time To Replace Clutch? - Symptoms... 200 1981

        Yes, the cable is adjusted right, the clutch engages properly, etc.

        I looked up in the Haynes manual, and it claims that the OD will only slip in and out of overdrive, and not in low gears. Will check on the inhibitor switch.

        Also, is it possible that the differential gearbox is slipping? Is it easy to pop the cover off and have a look, and is there something I should look for? The *clunk* in and out of slippage makes me wonder if it could be that...after all, the high torque of gears one and two could be causeing slippage of the differential gears...right?

        Thanks







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