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OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

I'm contemplating buying a compressor and tank to run air tools and maybe also a paint gun. Any recommendations out there both in terms of brands and minimum size compressor/tank needed?

Kåre








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    OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

    1) Get the biggest one you can afford.
    2) Pay attention to duty cycles. Cheap ones are rated at 40% duty cycle or less and a full day of wrenching or painting will tire them out, see (1) above.
    3) Piston pump with oversize motor (2-phase 220/240 V) best, esp. with dedicated plug and VERY short pig-tail.
    4) Dedicated circuit on house/shop wiring.
    5) Spend the money on a high quality water/oil remover and filter setup.

    6) most important, have fun.

    Mike!








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    OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

    One warning that has not shown up yet is the noise factor. The diaphragm type (oil-less)compressors make a whole lot of it. Piston compressors are much more pleasent to be around if working continuosly for a long time. i.e. painting.

    Paint gun will require much air even the HVLP. I pained a couple of panels on my daughter's car and my Sears 5 hp 26 gallon compressor kept up, but ran almost continuously. Don't forget the annoying noise I was telling you about.

    Other factor is piston compressors will replenish the tank much quicker than the oil-less. I wish I had held out and bought the Ingersol Rand piston compressor. It was a few $ more for the same physical size, but I believe it would have been worth it. Get the largest tank that you feel you can donate space to.

    Now the downside of the piston copressor. If you intend to paint, you should have larger and more effective filters. This will not be included in the basic purchase price of either compressor and will be an additional cost. Using the oil-less compressor, I was able to get by with just a water trap. Did I mention that the damn thing makes a lot of noise.

    After I painted the car, I was using a DA sander with buffing pad and had the garage door open. My neighbor across the street was out doing some gardening and mentioned how he was getting tired of the noise. Something to consider in your decision making process. A friend warned me about the noise and I underestimated how loud and annoying it can be. Consider yourself warned.

    Dan








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    If you can possibly afford it get a 2 stage compressor. They run a lot less & can handle constant on tools like die grinders much better than single stage. I would recommend a 80 gal. tank at minimum. Check for used ones as the 2 stage last a long time. My single stage 220v DeVilbiss has lasted for 5 yrs. with no problems & cost $350 at Lowes.


    Mike M.








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    OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

    Allow me to UNrecommend a particular compressor....

    I witnessed two brand new Husky oil-less compressors from Home Depot chew themselves apart, both under warranty.

    After removing the cover to explore, we saw that the tiny cogged drive belt (sorta like our timing belts, but more like big rubber bands) had chewed off the teeth. Maybe something seized up, or maybe it's just el-cheapo design.

    Not only is the belt permanently built into the motor-compressor assembly (nearly impossible to swap out), but the motor-compressor is a toy -- and yet the black plastic housing is a big, impressive, muscular-looking cover.

    This particular model of Husky compressor is anything but husky.

    --
    Don Foster (near Cape Cod, MA)








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      OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

      "oil-less compressors" - in my mind, *universally* a bad idea. It almost always implies a diaphragm- or bellows-type pump. Neither is durable or powerful, regardless of the HP rating of the motor.

      I hearily recommend a belt-driven, piston-type pump compressor. This type allows you to replace or rebuild individual components. Anything less is just a toy.

      Look at ratings in SCFM, not HP. That's Standard (temperature) Cubic Feet per Minute. Then look at the requirements of tools you want to buy.

      I use a 6hp, belt-driven, oil-lubricated compressor, rated at 10.5 SCFM at 90 psi. It is a 220v motor, but I was fortunate enough to have the 220v service entrance to my house located in the garage, so it was easy to drop a 220v circuit. I paid $225 for mine, second hand, and the seller threw in a bunch of accessories.

      One bit of really good news for the DIY painter is that modern HVLP (high volume/low pressure) spray guns are a whole lot less demanding on a compressor than the old-school guns.








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        OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

        "...almost always implies a diaphragm- or bellows-type pump..."

        I agree. But I think this POS Husky is an itty-bitty piston pump. If I feel motivated, I'll send you a picture of the mini-compressor under the max-cover.

        "Standard (temperature) Cubic Feet per Minute..."

        Cubic feet per minute flow at standard atmospheric conditions -- 14.7 psia, 70 degrees Fahrenheit.

        For compressors, it's usually expressed at 40 psi and 90 psi.

        --
        Don Foster (near Cape Cod, MA)








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          OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

          Thanks for all advice. I'm getting to the point in life where I'm tired of always buying cheap - but, of course I still want a good value. If anyone have any specific brand recommendations, I'm listening. Maybe I could keep an eye on ebay? I don't expect to use a paint gun anywhere near as much as tools, but I do want to have the capability. What about those blue (Campbell something?) compressors they sell at Wal-Mart? Probably no good... They also have some compressors at Harbor Freight. Anyone bought or tried one of those, let me know.
          P.S. Don, I thought standard temperature was 59 F?

          Kåre








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            OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

            "P.S. Don, I thought standard temperature was 59 F?"

            It is in my house.

            But wife claims the standard temperature is 82 degrees. We compromise on 70.

            "(Campbell something?)"

            Hausfeld.

            If you want an industrial quality compressor, buy a 2-stage Ingersoll Rand.

            I have a Sears Craftsman compressor that has lasted for years and continues to run very well. 220v. Cast iron compressor, no aluminum to be found. They don't make 'em like they used to. I drain the condensate every 10 years whether it needs it or not.

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            Don Foster (near Cape Cod, MA)








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    OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

    I have a 3.5 electric HP with a 20 gallon tank with separate motor and compressor components. It runs most of the tools I need, including spot sandblaster, spray gun, nail guns( big and small, built addition), and small high speed grinder. It's marginal for continuous use over 65 psi at whatever CFM the spray gun uses. I like that it's portable (in basement in winter, garage in summer). Anything smaller would be pretty worthless. I avoided the unit motor/compressor setups.








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    OT: Shop compressor 140-160 1974

    I'd check the specs on your paint gun as I suspect it would be the most demanding. They generally need a pretty good volume of air at a pretty good pressure.







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