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I need new tires for my 1998 S90. Is there a decent tire out there without breaking the bank?
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Michelins are great if you want to spend that much money. Well maybe not great, but for the money you can get a reasonable tire... and you will spend a lot of money for any Michelin tire.
I had Yokohama Avid T4s on my Taurus and liked em quite a bit. I'd go with the Avid H4S over the Avid Tourings on an S90.
I just got a set of Kumho Ecsta HP4 716s for my wagon. Unfortunately the wagon sill needs an alignment and strut rod bushings (ah.. if only IPD did free same day delivery). So far, they feel nice. Even in the rain the Kumhos feel a bit more planted than the D60A2s they replaced felt in dry weather. Come to think of it the Dunlop D60A2s on my friend's wagon don't feel too stable at speed either.
I'd recommend both tirerack and Discount Tire (tires.com) as places to buy your new shoes.
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alex
'89 765T, 170,8xx mi
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Aren't you glad you asked? Out of the fourteen emails you now have, you now have about 14 choices! I know I've learned about newer tire models that I wasn't aware of, but that will be one my 'take a look' list when tire-buying comes around again. I'll be curious to how you've sorted all this out and what tires you ultimately end up with. Good Luck!
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John Shatzer, '97 V90 @ 105K
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In November I just bought 4 Yokohama YK420's for my S90. $106 per corner, installed at Discount Tire, 60K warranty with lifetime balancing, rotation, valve stems and road hazard. They seem to work just fine in the rain here in the PacNW. The tires replaced same sized Dunlop Sport8000, or 4000, or 6000 whatever tire that didn't quite make 40K. When I replaced the tires the low speed front end shake also disappeared as if the car had been "over-tired".
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I'll second the Yokohama YK420's, although my local Pacific Northwest Discount Tire store installed them for about $360 total, including tax and replacement certificates. Maybe they gave me to good price because I have bought a lot of tires from them. The Continental CH95's that were on the car when I bought it were fairly unremarkable, but did give me another 25K miles, starting at about 30% tread left when I got the car. The YK420's are quiet, grip well, track well and feel more responsive than the (admittedly worn) CH95's. Personally, I'd save the "sport" compound tires for a car with suspension mods and wheels to match.
Mike L ('98 V90, 105K; '82 245, 422K)
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Tires, thats the one area I have had lots of experience with on this car.
I buy just about all my tires from tirerack.com. Good prices, quick service. Read the ratings other folks give and try and concentrate on like vehicles (I don't put much faith in what somebody driving a chevy cavilier says about a tire I'm putting on my car, just too different).
The most expensive set of tires I put on were the first, they were pirelli p6000 sport veloce's (say that with a tongue roll), at about 106 per tire from tirerack. These lasted 35k miles. Were the only "V" rated set I ever put on it. Good handling tire.
I followed that up with a set of continental ch95's. They lasted 25k miles. Also good manners.
Getting kinda tired (pun intended) of tires lasting only 25-35k miles, I went for a set of pirelli p4000 tires. These puppy's lasted 45k miles and were decent handling tires. Would have replaced them with same, but could not find them anywhere. Bought them from discounttiresdirect.com.
Another set of conti ch95's. Another 25k miles.
Current set of tires is a set of Kuhmo ecsta hp4 716. So far, so good, probably have about 5k miles on em. Also from tirerack.com I would have tried sumitomo's, but they were out of stock and I needed a set then and there.
I've never tried Michelins or some other high end brand. I honestly don't know if they would wear past 35k miles. After spending the bucks on the first set of pirellis and not getting lots of milse out of them, I think limiting it to about 60 a tire seems to give the best payback. I attribute the short wear life to the fact that it is a 55 series tire and the car isn't light at about 3600 lbs. Good luck with what you decide on.
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97 S90 with 166K miles still going strong
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I paid about $89 for the Michelin MXV4 Plus XSE, V speed rated tires from discounttiredirect.com that I put on my wagon with 16" wheels. I use Michelin pilot alpin snows in the winter on the original 15" wheels. I have another warm season's worth of use left on them with about 45K miles on them already. The largest weight was about 1 OZ to balance them. The car is still smooth as silk on the highway all the way up to 100+ MPH with the original balance weights.
I'm thinking seriously about a set of Michelin Pilot Sports for the next set. (I've never owned a set of really high performace tires before. I know they will be expensive to buy and will probably only last 30K or so.)
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'96 965 with 16' wheels at 113K. Had '85 745 Turbo Diesel for 200K.
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I'm using a set of 205/55WR-16 Kumho ECSTA KH11 from Tire Rack on my 1998 V90. Love'em. Great 3 season tire, asymetrical and nicely sticky. I use dedicated snows in the winter.
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Just to confuse the issue even further, I'll cast my vote for the Bridgestone RE950s. They're great three season tires, especially in the rain.
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John Shatzer, '97 V90 @ 105K
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As I have gotten older, I'd like to think I'm getting a little wiser. I guess what that means is I value my life more. That being said, I no longer skimp on wiper blades and tires.
I RUN away from tires that say they will last 60-80,000 miles. I have driven tires good for only 20K and all the way thru 80K warranties. The 20K tire grip like stink and give you a great feeling of control but wear out way too fast for normal driving. The 80K tire might as well be made of solid nylon and don't give you that 'rides like it's on rails' feeling when the going gets tough. I split the difference and try to buy tires with about a 40K warranty. They are soft, but not too soft.
Where I live, the speed limit is 75 mph, it's rural and there are many animals (some fairly large) that like to stand in the middle of a lane and check out the latest road kill, especially at night. In the last several years, my wife and I have to make a few evasive manuevers at highway speeds for various reasons. The softer tires kept the car in check and the manuvers were made safely and instilled a feeling of confidence. The harder tires, lost adhesion easily in and the car spun out. No damage, but I couldn't get those tires off fast enough.
The colder it gets, the harder it seems those compounds get. When your already dealing with a fairly hard compund, cold weather only makes it worse.
Yes I have to change more often, but to me, it's worth my life.
I have had great experience with Michelins and highly recommend them.
My humble 2 cents.
DEWFPO
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1998 S90 068,300 and 1995 964 152,300
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Wed Mar 24 10:35 CST 2004 [ RELATED]
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Last summer, I bought Yokohama Avid Touring ($42+$8 ship, 80K miles on thread warranty) from Tire Rack for my 240. Yoko Avid touring performs excellent on wet and dry road. Also the price is very good. Next year, I will buy Yoko Geolandar ($63) for my SUV.
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Read up on TireRack reviews.
But if you don't feel like doing such, then Kumho 716's work very well for under $50/corner.
-- Kane
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Blossom II - '91 745Ti/M46 ... Bubbles - '74 144GL/BW35 ... Buttercup - '86 245GL/AW70 ... The Wayback Machine - '64 P220/M40
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Wed Mar 24 10:05 CST 2004 [ RELATED]
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I agree with Kane on the Kumho 716's. Good tire for the price. Quiet and good traction. Wear is another story. I've got 30,000 miles (50,000 mile warranty) on a set and they're just a hair above the wear bar and need to be replaced. The good news is the tire shop will pro-rate them for me so as to provide a credit on the next set.
Good Luck.
95' 964 145k
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On the set on my 745, I've put about 27k miles and there's about 6/32" left ... so I guess "your milage may vary".
Pressure at 35 psi, rotated every 6k.
-- Kane ... previous set were Goodyear Eagle HP's - dumped after 5k. Slipping and sliding in the rain (and having to start in 2nd gear!) is not my idea of a good tire, let alone one billed as "high performance".
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Blossom II - '91 745Ti/M46 ... Bubbles - '74 144GL/BW35 ... Buttercup - '86 245GL/AW70 ... The Wayback Machine - '64 P220/M40
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Wow, this post will get lots of action as asking about tires is similar to discussing religion!
In my opinion, Michelin is the only game in town! They go on with few balance weights, are round and stay round for the life of the tire, allowing you to get full life out of the tread. Several models are available to suit your driving style. Go on the Michelin site and get their recommendation for a model. Use the internet for comparing prices and then check locally using your knowledge about the price of the models you are interested in. (Performance, speed ratings, etc. usually cost $.$$ in both initial price and shorter tread life for sticky compounds.)
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'96 965 with 16' wheels at 113K. Had '85 745 Turbo Diesel for 200K.
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Pirelli P6000 good prices at Discount Tires now. I am going for a pair this month. They have a $50 deal rebate at this point too.
dick
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I'm with you on the Pirelli's, The P6000, not the P6000 Sport Veloce, is great tire for the S90/960. The P6000 is a summer tire with a 180 treadwear, very sticky and about the same or better performance of the OEM equipped Michelin XGTV4 tires which are $155 each. The only word of caution is that you might go up to a W rated over the V rated, they will last longer and show less sidewall wear over the long haul. My current set has about 15k miles and look to be less than 1/2 worn. I got only 21k out of the Michelins.
tierrack.com for $95 each and les the rebate these are a great bargain.
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'89 245 Sportwagon, '96 960 sedan
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CONTINENTAL!!
Is the only word that comes to mind when a inexpensive tire with GREAT wear, comfort, wet traction etc!
>>>>CUT & PASTE<<<<< --- These are the Preimer Contact...
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ContiPremierContact&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=055HR6PC&fromCompare1=yes
I have used Conti Extreme's for 2 years now on all my cars and will swear by them. The Conti Extreme & Conti Premier Contact are the 2 of my favorites... I love to get crazy when boredom strikes, so I suppose I am a JERK to my tires and the Conti's always wear great even on a 1988 E30 M3... Imagine going Auto-crossing on a set of $80 tires and with a DOT tread wear of 400 A.A.A... LOL
>>>>> CUT & PASTE<<<< --- These are the EXTREME Contact.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ContiExtremeContact&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=055VR6CEC&fromCompare1=yes
Yes I did it! Not the best tire for that yes, but I wanted to put these things through the ringer... I really reccommend them due to the Quietness and peace of mind...
PS: They also have a 80,000 mile warranty!!
- Jim
1997 S90 & 1988 E30 M3
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If you have a Sam's Club nearby, you can pick up the Michelin Radial X (or maybe it's just the Michelin Radial now) for ~ $105 to $110 installed (P195/65R15, I'm not sure what size the S90 uses), including lifetime rotation and roadhazard (if it is punctured, they'll give you another one, minus any prorated use). This is the exact same tire as, I believe, the Michelin Pilot, the only difference is is that Michelin puts a different name on it for Sams (when I had these tires put on my '99 Honda Accord I had called Michelin to confirm this).
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Heat,
For that price you can get some Dunlop SP8000. This is a quiet Z rated tire. Excelent wet traction.
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