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Need Suggestions: Cargo Net 965 900

Greetings,

I was interested in hearing any opinions / suggestions as to keeping groceries from flying around in the back of the 965. Cargo nets, expandable compartmentalized containers, custom or aftermarket hardware?

I have been using black rubber bungees to hold the baby stroller and a portable booster seat in place. There's still a ton of room for other items, but they slide around alot, and the wife expressed concern about the potential for items to become projectiles in the unexpected and unfortunate event of a frontal collision.

I've seen expandable nylon cargo bags at Target that have velcro on the bottom to prevent slippage, but they are useless on the black vinyl cargo tray. I would like to keep the cargo tray in place, because of the filthy wheels on the baby stroller.

I have an elastic net/pouch in my Subaru wagon. It is not very big but is quite handy. It won't hold a week's worth of groceries, but you can at least put the milk in it and not worry about the jug sliding around and possibly exploding. The 965 hasn't the proper mounting hardware for such a net, but I am sure there is something similar available. I saw a few item on eBay, but nothing specific to the 965, and their descriptions were vague as to the mounting hardware used.

Thanks all,
kkoch
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'95 960 Wagon 90K,'98 Subaru Outback Sport Wagon 85K, '94 Toyota Pickup 2WD 49K








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    In my V90 wagon I just throw the grocery bags in the back floor and seat. They never fall or move. If I must stop fast the worst that could happen is they slide into the back of the front seat, no problem. I just dont have the patience to deal with tangled nets, ropes and bungee cords for a 3 block drive.
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    Dear kkoch,

    May this find you well. I have a 940. If you want to secure items to the cargo tray, Velcro can be attached to a load space cargo tray. You should clean the plastic surface soap and water, and let it dry completely. Attach adhesive-backed velco to the cargo tray. Velcro is available in 2" width at sewing equipment stores and Home Depot. Unless you need to hold down something very heavy, velco should work.


    To hold down heavy items, a net can be used. In the load space of a 940 (at least 1993-4) there are four steel loops (two at the front edge of the wheel wells, adjacent to the back of the rear seat and two at the corners near the hatch, just below the rear light access panels).

    To these steel loops, a cargo net could be attached. For light- and medium duty security, use split rings. I do not mean the very thin wire rings, onto which freshly-made keys are put. I mean the split rings that are about 1/8" in diameter. For examples, see http://www.worthco.com/rings/spltring.html .

    This type of split ring has flat mating surfaces. To put a key on them, one lifts one end with the tip of a screwdriver, puts the end of the split ring through the hole in the key, and works the key around the ring, until it reaches the joint. At that point, the key is fully on the ring. This will take a minute or two for each ring.

    Instead of putting the key onto the ring, one corner of the cargo net can be put onto the ring. You then have a cargo net with steel rings on each corner.

    The cargo net can be secured to the car, by working the factory-installed steel loop onto the split ring. As this is time consuming, a net so installed will be "permanent", unless you also install snap loops.

    Snap loops can be bought at a hardware store or a Home Depot. Snap loops are used to connect ropes to screw-eyes (round steel rings with a threaded shank, which is screwed into wood, concrete, etc.). For examples of snap loops, see http://www.circlegbrand.com/cgb_cat_Hardware01.html.

    At one end, the snap loop has a closed steel ring. At the other end, the snap loop has a spring loaded "gate". This is a section of the loop that is hinged and openable by pressing the gate back against spring pressure, or that has a short, straight section of the loop, that is openable by pulling it back against spring pressure.

    If the split ring is attached to each corner of the cargo net, snap loops can be put onto each split ring. In this way, the net will have at each corner, an openable hook, the openings of which are kept closed by spring pressure.

    The net can be removed very quickly. These hardware items, being steel, should be strong enough to secure 25-30 lb items against becoming missiles.For extra security, two split rings can be used on each corner for each snap loop. Snap loops vary as to their capacity.

    If you need a very heavy-duty snap loop, use mountaineers' carabiners (for examples of carabiners see: http://everestnews.altrec.com/shop/dir/0/125/ ). These have an openable, spring loaded gate. As carabiners support climbers' ropes - and so climbers - they are very strong. They are available in different load-bearing capacities and materials (i.e., titanium, for the most demanding applications). Most outdoor equipment stores will have them.

    If you need this level of strength, I'd recommend using cargo netting made of 1/2" diameter rope (the kind used in cargo nets for suspending loads under a helicopter).

    I would not use an elastic cargo net, except to hold only very lightweight items. Anything heavy is not likely to be held by an elastic net during a rear-end collision or violent deceleration. For such situations, only a rope cargo net will be adequate.


    Hope this helps.

    Yours faithfully,

    spook

    p.s.








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      Need Suggestions: Cargo Net 965 900

      Spook, thanks for the good advice.

      My online searches came up with a number of reasonable options, however, alot of these available products have vague descriptions and no detailed photos of the attachment hardware. The OEM stuff seems priced in the stratosphere.

      Have you (or anyone else out there) any opinions on steel pet/cargo barriers? Are these things designed to keep a dog from flying through the passenger space in the event of a collision? Or are they just to keep drool off the upholstery?

      I found a picture at this site:
      http://www.volvoworld.com/900/Section_7_5.htm

      With this description and price:
      Pet and cargo barrier, heavy duty steel barrier lifts up against the headliner when not needed, easy to remove and install 940,960 wagon,V90 93-98 9134038-0 New OEM $351.15

      Seems rather pricey to me. However, the "lifts up against the headliner when not needed" feature sounds nice . . . so that a rear seat passenger(s) can have access to items in the cargo area? Like snacks (think: two kids, long trip).

      Thanks again,
      kkoch

      P.S. For whatever its worth: A coworker of mine claims that his police officer dad investigated an auto accident scene where the driver's airbag and seatbelt apparently would have spared the driver's life, however, a projectile kleenex box from the sedan's rear speaker tray caused head trauma resulting in death.

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      '95 960 Wagon 90K,'98 Subaru Outback Sport Wagon 85K, '94 Toyota Pickup 2WD 49K








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        The Volvo cargo barriers is well worth the money. Considering your passenger cargo is priceless, how much is safety worth. There are cheap ones(ipd?) sold that IMO are worthless. I have worked with head/spinal injury patients for the past few years and according to the learned folks, it takes 16 ounces of pressure to cause FATAL injury if you get hit in the right/wrong place. Head/neck/spinal injuries will put you in a wheelchair in an instant. Given the right circumstances, that can of beans or that two pound box of pasta flying forward can lead to death or a life of misery for you and your loved ones. Whatever you decide to do, think of the WORST thing that could happen and how you can try to prevent it. Take care,rcs








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          Need Suggestions: Cargo Net 965 900

          rcsammy,

          Thanks for the reply. Your points are well-taken.

          Please correct me if I am mistaken, the Volvo unit is a factory add-on designed with SAFETY in mind. It's hardware and mountings are hefty enough to stop items (like groceries or whatnot) being thrown from the rear cargo area (unlike the spring loaded types or universal pet barriers).

          Question: Does the Volvo unit get in the way of a third seat? Can a third seat be used with the cargo barrier flipped up to the headliner? Do you know how much headroom is sacrificed in the rear? The photo at the site where I saw this doesn't show any detail but it looks like it is fashioned to accommodate the third seat seatbelts. I'm trying to picture how it would work in my mind.

          Thanks again,
          kkoch
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          '95 960 Wagon 90K,'98 Subaru Outback Sport Wagon 85K, '94 Toyota Pickup 2WD 49K








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            Good Afternoon Mr. Koch,

            Does the Volvo unit get in the way of a third seat? Are you speaking of the third row seats in the wagon ? If so, then yes the OEM barrier does get in the way as you attach the third row seatbelt loops to the same monting holes that are used to attach the top of the barrier.

            Head room is lost in the cargo area of the wagon and you loose aprox: 10 - 15 cm.
            Go to this web site and it will show the exact mounting details.

            http://epic.mcmaster.ca/bill/volvo/image_db/700series/IM000011.JPG

            http://epic.mcmaster.ca/bill/volvo/image_db/700series/IM000016.JPG

            This is the setup in a 745, however it would be the same in a 940/960.

            Good Luck

            Andreas Koch








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              Need Suggestions: Cargo Net 965 900

              Thank you Mr. Koch!

              Your photos are EXTREMELY helpful. And from the photos I see what I believe to be a knurled knob that would make removing and reinstalling the unit a simple affair. It appears that this unit is a very stout piece on hardware.

              Thanks again!
              Karl Koch

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              '95 960 Wagon 90K,'98 Subaru Outback Sport Wagon 85K, '94 Toyota Pickup 2WD 49K








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          Dear rcs,

          Good p.m. Great insights! Would/will/do the Volvo headrests protect neck/head against impacts from loose items coming from behind?

          Yours faithfully,

          spook








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            I am sure that the headrest would protect you from forward flying objects IF it happened to to be in the line of flight. But in a crash your head is liable to be away from and to the side of the headrest. Lots of possible angles that an object can take flying from front to rear or side to side for that matter. The headrests are mainly there to keep from snapping your neck when getting hit from the rear(whiplash). I guess we could all wear helmets and five point belts but there is no one thing that can eliminate all possible injuries. No two crashes are EVER the same and that is why people still die and suffer serious injury despite all of the saftey devices that are present in cars today. That said, the consensus is that the #1 cause of car crashes is stupidity. Take care, rcs







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