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Starting Issue 200 1993

Hi Everyone

Never a cold starting problem with my 1993 240 since I replaced the air mass meter a year ago. The past 2 mornings though (after sitting in sub-zero weather over night) the engine will turn over just fine and almost catch and sputter a little and then go back to just turning over with a steady rhythm. Yesterday I thawed out the engine in a garage and removed and dried off plugs and it started right up. This morning I held the accelerator half way down while turning the key and it finally started (I know that's a no-no with fuel injection but I was desperate). What do you think would make it difficult to start only below a certain temperature? About 20 degrees and above NO issues. Anything below and the problem happens.








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    Starting Issue 200 1993

    I have an 86 240. Last winter, when the car sat all night at -20C, it would either barely start and die, or wouldn't start at all. Usually after extended cranking, or leaving it till the temperature rose a bit, it would finally start, running rough for a few minutes, and then would be fine. At -10C, it showed no symptoms.

    I thought at first it might just be a bad ECU temperature sensor, but it met spec. By the way, my car doesn't have a cold start valve. If yours does, verifying its function should be one of the first things you do.

    I did a bunch of related maintenance since:

    1) cleared clogged hose from flame trap to intake manifold
    2) replaced fuel filter and check valve
    3) replaced plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor
    4) used a fuel treatment
    5) replaced O2 sensor - set 50% duty cycle at test point
    6) replaced air filter

    When I tried a morning start at -20C recently, it started fine. I'm not certain exactly which of the above cured the problem, since I couldn't test with cold weather along the way. I've put them in priority order of what I think may have fixed the problem though.

    Comments:
    1) My crankcase wasn't getting ventilated, and eventually I found that my dipstick was getting rusty, presumably due to excess moisture. When I later pulled the plugs, the contacts were rusty!
    2) If it's been a long time, a clogged fuel filter could be involved, since cold starts need extra fuel. I couldn't even blow through the removed one; it seemed air tight!
    3) The rusty plugs could well have been involved, although I don't recall if I they were this way last winter.
    4) I've seen comments that buildup on the intake valves could absorb fuel which is needed most during cold startup.
    5)I wouldn't think that the O2 sensor would affect actual starting; more likely, just how it runs after starting.
    6) My old air filter wasn't that dirty, so I don't think replacing it was a factor


    Good Luck!









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    Starting Issue 200 1993

    1.. Maybe the cold is causing a lightly leaking fpr? Metal shrinks in cold, more prone to openeing leaks at the seam...

    2.. Open up fuel pump relay and examine behaviour while cranking. Does it cluck on/off continuously? Or do the relays click on after 1st / 2nd turnover and then stay on? If it cycles, you could very well have a faulty RPM (crank) sensor. Normal replacable item at that age. See FAQ for this, there are cautions...

    3.. With car idling, spray some water on the ignition wires with spray bottle. If idles decreases and sputters, wires are no longer good and prone to humidity changes.

    4.. Check 30A ignition fuse and holder, replace with waterproof one if original.

    5.. Check for intake ducting leaks. When you changed your AMM you might have not installed the ducting leak-free, or opened a small crack somewhere.

    There can be many other causes...

    Greg Mustang
    Montreal - Ottawa
    Canada








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      I had a no cold start condition on my 740 with the same engine. Replacing the Fuel Pressure Regulator fixed my problem.

      This test will take one minute. With engine off, but having run recently, remove the vacuum hose from the front of the FPR (this is about right at the top front fo the fuel rail). Touch your finger to the end of the hose. If there is liquid present there it is gasoline leaking out of the FPR and it needs to be replaced. Mine failed that test and even though I didn't expect that to fix my cold start, it has started every time at all temps since.

      Good luck.

      Andy
      '91 745 Regina 184K, '89 244 135K, '87 245 lost the rust battle at 225K








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    Starting Issue 200 1993

    >This morning I held the accelerator half way down while turning the key and it >finally started (I know that's a no-no with fuel injection but I was >desperate).

    I have never heard that it is not good to hold the accelerator part way down while starting a car with fuel injection. What were you told that would make this a bad idea?

    Randy








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      Starting Issue 200 1993

      Pumping the accelerator a couple times, or holding it down halfway while starting comes from the good ol' days of carburetors, when you'd need to squirt some gas with the accelerator to get started. It's not only unnecessary with fuel injection (so long as your fuel pumps and regulator are in good order), I have read that it can be detrimental and result in flooding in many FI systems. Don't know if that's true with the LH systems, but in any case it does nothing beneficial.








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      Starting Issue 200 1993

      Yeah-I've been told by a few people that doing this would flood the plugs right away-so it should be avoided. And sure enough it did just this the other day.








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    I suffered through this for years with my 90. I found two things. If I used the car late on into the evening before, it would start in the morning, but if it sat for a day or so, forget it. Once it started to sputter and putt I had to keep it going. If it stalled, forget it. Kept the ignition system in decent shape, gapped the plugs every several thousand miles, changed components when they got worn.








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      Starting Issue 200 1993

      Brand new plugs as of two days ago, new wires, cap and rotor three months ago. It has to be something sensor-related...Someone come up with the right answer! Please!







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