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o2 sensor voltage under boost(revisited) 700 1989

I got some e-mail from the Dawes device company about the L.E.D mixture indicator device I bought,so far I am still reading somewhere around .75-.90 volts from the o2 sensor under full boost according to the meter,this tells the indicator to light the red LED indicating a dangerous lean condition.My question is,am I running lean and is the o2 sensor supposed to go to 1.0 volt under full boost and perhaps the sensor it's just not new enough to run the indiacator device.The device reads .75-.90(red).90-.95(yellow).95-1.0(green)and 1.0 and above for(blue)overly rich.How can I add more fuel to fix the lean condtion if there is one,I checked the fuel pressure awhile back and it was around 60 at idle and even higher with every pound I gave the pressure regulator vacuum port,no fuel came out of the vacuum port of the regualtor unit either,I heard that if fuel comes thats a bad thing.I questioned if the AMM was at fault also,any input greatly appreciated.








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    o2 sensor voltage under boost(revisited) 700 1989

    I don't really like the 10 LED 02/volt gauges. The resolution is poor. I prefer a voltmeter hooked up directly so you get a 2 or 3 decimal place reading (not that a narrow band 02 sensor is particularly accurate at the extremes). See what you get at stock boost at full throttle and full load, meaning the upper gears at upper rpm. Then as you raise boost, make sure you still get this number. You may have to also back down timing if you are really pushing things.

    You are probably off in your fuel pressure measurements. The 3 bar regulator used on the B230FT gives about 36 psi at idle and about 44 psi at 0 vaccum and 0 boost. From there, it adds one psi of fuel pressure per psi of boost, So to see 60 psi on the fuel pressure gauge, you should have 16 psi of boost.

    If fuel comes out the vacuum port of the regulator or if the regulator will not hold vacuum or boost when tested with a Mityvac, the regulator is bad. They cost only about $40 from a discount place like FCP Groton.

    To add fuel, you need a mechanical FMU, sometimes called an RRFPR, such as those sold by BEGI (MVP sells the BEGI unit) or Vortech, that raises fuel pressure under boost at greater than a 1:1 ratio. Or you need an electronic AIC that controls one or more additional injectors. Or you need a piggyback computer that will let you run larger injectors and possibly also alter the ignition timing (MVP will offer one soon). Or you need a complete stand alone computer (very expensive). Or you can concoct something using cold start injectors and Hobbes switches and lots of testing.

    Philip Bradley








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      o2 sensor voltage under boost(revisited) 700 1989

      Philip,the meter I use is a "dawes device" style with four really bright LEDS,ranging from .75 volts to 1.0 volts,it's easy to read.I also checked my fuel pressure at the outlet of the fuel filter due to fitting on the fuel rail would NOT come apart; if that makes any difference, with a "Matco" adaptor and gauge that threads in between the filter and the banjo fitting,maybee the gauge is bad,I did see pressure increases with pressure applied to the diaphram.Should the o2 sensor read 1.0 volts at full boost? Where can you get a vortech rising rate regualtor?Thanks for the input,Scott








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        o2 sensor voltage under boost(revisited) 700 1989

        The Dawes device is better than some in that it concentrates its LEDs on the important area rather than mostly providing a light show for the driver. But the resolution is still less than ideal when hundredths can make an important difference. You might get the light, but be at the bottom of the light's range and be lean. I would still tune with a voltmeter.

        Don't check your pressure too far away; you want to know what it is near the regulator - you want to know what you have at the injectors, not elsewhere. Its what goes into the engine that is important. That is what you tune. You will have to get at the fitting. The Volvo plastic line is a real pain to work with. I believe it is 6mm, which is less than 1/4, but not by much. If you cannot separate the fittings, and you really should try more using PB Blaster and very good wrenches on both sides so you do not bend the pipe, then you can cut the hose about an inch before the fitting. You will find a hose barb underneath. You can fit 1/4 inch line over this hose barb. The problem will be further back, because you will then have to cut the Volvo line back a little further and put a splic in it. I recommend putting a T junction from the hardware store in there and plugging the fuel gauge into that. 1/8 NPT is usually the fitting for the gauges. You may or may not need a bigger T junction. You don't want to lose flow here. You would screw hose barb 1/4 into the junction and either the gauge or a pipe plug into the top. Use fuel injection hose to get back to the Volvo hose barb. The hard part is getting that 1/4 hose barb into the plastic Volvo hose. Good luck. Try heating the hose barb first and then work it in really fast. Lube the inside of the plastic hose with oil or something, also.

        1V is too much. Very roughly, the Volvos seem to run between about 0.86 and 0.93 at full throttle and full load. Anything else and I would be concerned. You need to ground the Dawes device at the engine block, since that is where the 02 grounds (through the exhaust to the block).

        You can buy a Vortech FMU or Super FMU from Summit. You would want a 4:1 rising rate. You can buy the Bell Engineering regulator from Corky Bell's company directly or from MVP Volvo in Portland, OR. Both probably cost $250 to $300. They will fairly reliably give you up to around 30-40% more fuel flow through the stock injectors. Stock, your injectors are good to around 225 hp, which might be around 16 psi on an otherwise stock motor. Beware that things usually start breaking on a 14 year old car when you double or more than double the stock boost and that you will probably have to start making repairs and further modifications and that this can get expensive.

        Philip Bradley







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