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First of all, praise be for the Amazon's heater - it must be easily as good as any I have used in a old or new car. However it doesn't solve my problem which is to eradicate the whistling noise around the front windows (both sides) which is bearable up to about 50mph but intolerable on long motorway journeys.
Can you tell me which are the various components of the restoration of this area? Of course I will get new rubber seals, but are these a Volvo part which I can order? THen there is the magic-sounding windlace. I am new to this so can someone explain where I get it and again is it bought-to-fit or do I have to cut/adjust it?
With these two parts, and a steady hand, could I expect to eradicate this noise or will there always be some because of the design of the car? I would love to hear from owners who have done a successful job. And just a quick last question before I go. Carb-Intake roar. Is this best lessened with sound-proofing in the engine area or with carb-silencers (which I've never actually seen - I'm just guessing).
Please be as noisy as you like in discussion. This kind of noise I like. Thanks.
Tom
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I use the intake box from a 140/1800?(rectagular)and this reduced the intake noise bigtime, it might also be reducing my intake volume but I don't race much and anyway it works for the later B20 that were supposedly more powerful. As to the other noise, there was a post last month detailing all the things to do to reduce cabin noise, on long journeys I wear ear plugs myself.
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Actually, that 140 box might well be beneficial for performance / economy. I suspect there's room for it in an Amazon's engine bay, too -- I think the last Amazons in 1970 used that box or something very similar, although that might be a mental hallucination on my part ("but I coulda sworn...").
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posted by
someone claiming to be shayne
on
Mon Feb 17 12:13 CST 2003 [ RELATED]
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"Actually, that 140 box might well be beneficial for performance / economy. I suspect there's room for it in an Amazon's engine bay, too -- I think the last Amazons in 1970 used that box or something very similar, although that might be a mental hallucination on my part ("but I coulda sworn...")."
I've got one o' them (elusive three-bolt) black boxes in the wagon and am currently on the search for another for the sedan, I think Boris is sending me one-I really like it.
Now the box came out in '67 or '68 with the introduction of the three bolt SU's. In '69 SU went on strike and everyone started using Strombergs (and boxes that fit same). When SU was back in business, they (SU) introduced the HIF's (and black boxes to fit those), so the three-bolt black box is hard to find indeed.
I don't know all this as fact, it's just what I've gleaned.
Best, shayne
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Hiya Shayne,
But in '67 or '68 that box was just on the 140s, no? The 122s and 1800s I've seen with 3-bolt SUs just had the deeper separate air cleaners with no box. Or ???
Good to know that it does fit an Amazon -- I was wondering about clearance to the fender. Thanks for the info.
SU went on strike... funny to think that the things were still new in those days. I thought Volvo just had a big stock of the original ones from 1904 or something.
*^)
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posted by
someone claiming to be shayne
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Mon Feb 17 18:34 CST 2003 [ RELATED]
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Heya Phil,
I've never seen the airbox in an Amazon, just the pancake two-bolt and tall three-bolt filters starting on most '67 models. So I guess that'd be right; 140's had the black box...and the, to quote Mr. Downs I think, "pipefitters nightmare" manifold, plus the heat riser.
There is a local 122 I tinker with that has the big hole stamped in the front valance for the air hose to feed through, but alas, no box. The owner says the car came over from Sweden on that new? Swedish Volvo delivery program.
No clearance issues under my hood but there was a bit of a restriction of air at WOT with velocity stacks uh,...stacked in there:o)
RF runs much better at stop lights in the hot Summer and, is it my imagination or have I picked up a half a horse by using slightly cooler air? Heh.
S.
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It's good to have at least 1-1/2" open outboard of stacks... might be better without the stacks with that box, or maybe those little stubby stacks.
You'll definitely pick up some power by plumbing the box to the outside air.
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SU went on strike, thus the '69 Volvos have Strombergs? I never would have guessed that was the reason. Thanks for the tidbit. I'll be sure to rattle that off at the next Volvo club meeting and win the adoration of those around...
--
Justin 70 1800E, 66 122E, 71 145S
Read vclassics!
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posted by
someone claiming to be shayne
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Mon Feb 17 12:53 CST 2003 [ RELATED]
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Hi Justin!
Don't know it for a fact but lotsa folks say that.
shayne.
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New rubber for the vent windows is available from IPD. Installation requires taking the glass and the strut at the rear of the vent window out of the door -- it's quite simple, but work slowly and analyze how it all goes together. You'll need to drill out the rivet that serves as a hinge for the vent window, and drill out the rivets that hold the rear of the old rubber to the strut. It's quite easy to pop-rivet eveything back together, so buy or borrow a pop-rivet gun.
On the roll-down window side of the strut, get some rubber window channel from a junk 140. It's a good replacement for the stuff that used to be in there. It just presses in. For the fuzzy stuff around the rest of the window, I used some generic channel from JC Whitney, which you cut to length as needed. I believe the "real" stuff is available from various Swedish sources -- see RoundFender.org for a listing of those sources.
Windlace is the cloth-covered, round-section strip that goes from the floor of the car up to the headliner and back to the floor on the other side of the door. It's NLA from Whitney, but is available from the above-mentioned Swedish sources. It's also pretty easy to sew your own.
Rubber door seals are currently available from IPD.
No suggestion on the intake roar... I like it.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ironman
on
Wed Feb 19 14:57 CST 2003 [ RELATED]
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Actually I saw an article that addresses this problem in Classic Truck or similar magazine. If you are not a purist, the small window and larger door windows were replaced with a single larger window, including window trim/felt and internal crank mechanism. Definitely worth checking out.
Good Luck,
Ironman
i_amm_ironman@yahoo.com
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