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Overdrive problems. 200 1986

I'm back again heh.
Filled up the tranny with fluid and it didnt seem to fix the problem like i thought it would, i searched around in the archives for a similar problem but i havent been able to find one. the problem is in a 86 240 dl wagon, manual transmission. When i try to engage the over drive, it does one of two things, most of the time it doesn't catch, but if i take my foot off the accelerator the rpms drop to where they should be if the over drive were engaged, Or it will catch and the overdrive will work for a few seconds and then slip back out. The green overdrive light remains on, and when the car is off, i can hear a click when i press the overdrive button (when it is in fourth). I greatly appreciate help anyone can provide.








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    Overdrive problems. 200 1986

    You say you "filled up the tranny with fluid".

    Did you top it off or refill it with the old fluid or fill it with new fluid?

    The reason I ask is that I once healed a slipping OD simply by changing the fluid.

    On mine, OD would always engage the first time, no problem, *if* that was within 10 minutes of starting out. Then I could drive as far as I wanted in OD. But the first time I diseagaged it, after that it would not engage solidly--it would slip.

    Here is what I think was going on. Trans fluid gets thinner as it heats up. Manufacturers put in additives to limit the change in viscosity from cold to hot. Old fluid loses these additives--so on my car the hot fluid was too thin and it was bypassing the old, worn seals, and the unit couldn't maintain enough pressure to stay in OD.

    Worked fine for another 50k until the main output bearing failed.

    For me it took a lucky guess and a talk with my dad who's a chemical engineer.

    There's something else that might help. I bet there are additives to improve the condition of the rubber in those seals. Maybe ODguru or someone else who knows transmissions can suggest something to try.

    Doing both of the above would be lots easier and cheaper than rebuilding your OD unit.

    Good Luck. Sorry to be so longwinded

    Doug Harvey








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    Overdrive problems. 200 1986

    You have failing actuating piston seals. The OD must come off the tranny to accomplish the renewal.

    See the 700-900 FAQ's under the Boards Features box for a how to.

    Or contact me for the instructions.

    Duane








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    Overdrive problems. 200 1986

    Sounds like my OD. Does it work when its cold? Does it work at higher speeds? It could be a clogged filter or bum solenoid, but most likely the seals are gone inside the unit. Then the unit can't make enough pressure to shift. If this is your problem it tends to work when its cold I asssume becuase the oil is more viscous, and it works when going faster because the pump is pumping faster.
    I've already ruled out electrical problems on mine and I'm going to have a go at putting new seals in it. I have seen one apart at the junkyard and it does not look too bad.








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      Overdrive problems. 200 1986

      yeah, that sounds about right, im going to check the solenoid next, i ran out of time for that today, same with the filter. As far as transmissions go they're my weak spot, plus this is the first fuel injected car i've ever owned, and i just picked it up about a month ago, so its all pretty much new ground for me. but thanks for your help, i'll post tomorrow how the filter/solenoid bit turns out. if it is something internal im just going to have a shop do it, i dont have the tools to drop the tranny. thanks again!








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        Overdrive problems. 200 1986

        Think overdrive not transmission. Two different items. The OD is a lot simple to R&R than the tranny. Much of that is due to the 30 lbs of OD vs the 100+ of the tranny.

        If your failure to engage or consistently engage is the actuating piston seals, most shops will not just do those seals, they will attempt to sell you a whole unit. Wait till you hear the price. The difference between what you would pay for a few tools and a Saturday afternoon might cure your fear of working on this unit. You could do it for about $40 in parts from me, plus the cost of any tools you would not have.

        Have you looked at the 700-900 FAQ under Overdrive Rebuild: M46 OD on what is entailed??

        Duane








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        Overdrive problems. 200 1986

        Sounds like odguru knows a lot more than me, but I do know you don't have to drop the tranny. You can just take the od off, which is much lighter.







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