posted by
someone claiming to be Jim Gallagher
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Tue Jul 31 12:26 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Has anyone else noticed that the oil filter is directly behind the electrical connections on the back of alternator!??
Maybe Olaf likes to watch the fireworks show every time his banjo wrench hits one of the connectors while he's unscrewing the filter, but I just don't find that kind of thing funny.
Those quirky swedes probably think that it's even more hilarious when a klutz like myself dribbles oil on the motor mount that is directly below the friggin' filter.
HaHaHaHa. I used to get angry, but now I just laaaaaauuuuuugggggghhhhh.....
Were the same geniuses reponsible for the plastic tank radiator and the tailgate wire harness that runs thru the hinge??
How 'bout the plastic heater control valve on the 740?
Einstein would be proud!!
NOT!
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posted by
someone claiming to be Robert Ludwick
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Wed Aug 1 20:16 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I had to fool with a late model Toyota today , and a Saturn tomorrow.
After fooling with this kind of pain, fixing ANYTHING on a 240 ( even my diesel) I consider thearapy.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ben
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Wed Aug 1 10:28 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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> Maybe Olaf likes to watch the fireworks show every time his banjo
> wrench hits one of the connectors while he's unscrewing the filter,
> but I just don't find that kind of thing funny.
I have 10 car-years of 240 ownership under my belt and have never had that happen. I guess I should feel lucky. Now that I've said that, I'll probably zap myself the next time I change my oil
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posted by
someone claiming to be Jorn Schreurs
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Wed Aug 1 19:16 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Same here, I just remove and fit the filter by hand, not tools. But then I guess I am just lazy. Certainly not Superman and I never had a leak!
reg,
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posted by
someone claiming to be Michael
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Wed Aug 1 20:30 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Same here, again. I always put the filter on myself, so I can always remove it myself with no tools. Once I break it loose, I spin it as fast as I can and oil never goes on the motor mount.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Richard Jewell
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Wed Aug 1 20:06 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Fiddly airboxes on UK carburettored 240's. It tales about 6 attempts to get the panel filter in and the lid correctly clipped shut. I'm considering having surgey to extend my fingers by 6 inches to assist with this. Oh, and replacing the dash board without it rattling afterwards should be enough to make zen buddhists turn to drink.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Lucas Friedrichsen
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Wed Aug 1 08:01 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I will agree with everyone elses posts. Thankfully I have not had to do a blower motor, and fret the day I have to replace one. One thing I do love is the space to get @ things. Even though I have a turbo 242 the oil filter is not horrible to get to, it just takes a bit more time.
One of the most annoying things I hate is working on one project, tearing into a section where it is on the car and finding other things that need to be done in that section too. but that goes with driving older vehicles.
even with all the little quirks, the cars last FOREVER :)
Roll on!
RWD rules
Luke
82 242Ti 164k miles
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posted by
someone claiming to be Brendan
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Wed Aug 1 10:31 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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...off and on for a few months now. Until my blower motor dies, I'm not doing anything.
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posted by
someone claiming to be jcovert
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Wed Aug 1 02:57 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Have you guys ever owned a SAAB? Volvos are a joke to work on compared to SAABs I just came back to 240s after ten years of SAAB 900 ownership. You have nothing to complain about. Try working on the front calipers of a SAAB, or changing the clutch, or changing the alternator, then you would have something to complain about.
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posted by
someone claiming to be io333
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Wed Aug 1 18:26 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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actually I always thought cluch replacement on the 900 was amazing: I could do one in two hours with almost no tools. The only car on earth I'd guess that you didn't have to seperate the tranny to get the clutch out. Everything else you said though: ditto. It would be easy to work on Saab 900s if I had the strength of superman but was only two feet tall.
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posted by
someone claiming to be jcovert
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Thu Aug 2 04:01 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Theoretically yes the clutch on a saab 900 is amazingly easy to change, except for one thing.... the clutch slave cylinder. To remove the clutch you have to fully compress the diapram spring so you can remove the slave cylinder. Two problems. The slave cylinders sucked and even when new likely would not compress the diaphram enough to remove the slave. Then if you manage to get it compressed enough you have jam something into the clutch to keep the diaphram compressed. I never found anything that would work well. My Haynes manual suggested a high tension lead, but that didn't work. I usually ended up using a large crowbar to try to pry the clutch off the flywheel while at the same time tring to avoid scratching the surface. Believe me I have done it many times. those slave cylinders only lasted 1 to 2 years, and you pretty much have to remove the clutch to replace it. I couldn't count the # of foul words I have uttered at that design. Why didn't they just use an external cylinder and a fork like everybody else? As well the master clutch cylinder sucked, the pedal fork had no bushing and wore through the pedal, bleeding the clutch hydrailics was near impossible.
I could go on for pages about the quirky design problems in SAAb 900s. That said I loved my SAAB. If I had my choice I'd have a SAAB 900 turbo spg, and a Volvo 240 turbo sitting in my driveway. I think the Volvo turbo would be left in the Saabs dust though.
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posted by
someone claiming to be chris herbst
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Wed Aug 1 02:37 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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There are things I love about old Volvos too. Don Foster said it best: the blower motor. What a crock!
"Remove car from around blower motor, replace motor, reassemble car."
The corroding fusebox is another timeless classic. And everyone loves tailgate wiring, right?
I have plastic caps on the B+ terminals of my alternators :)
But my real worry is when the supply of good RWD Volvos dries up. Where am I going to be then? What car will take it's place?
THAT is what really makes me wonder.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Pete Fluitman
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Wed Aug 1 14:37 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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I'll never complain about blower motors again, providing I never have to do another Garrett turbo on a 760. I detest that oil pipe with passion.
Regards
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posted by
someone claiming to be Englese, formerly Clive
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Wed Aug 1 07:25 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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But my real worry is when the supply of good RWD Volvos dries up. Where am I going to be then? What car will take it's place?
THAT is what really makes me wonder.
Exactly! Which is the reason why I hate to hear them recommended and bought for those who might not appreciate them. i.e. young, inexperienced, newly licenced, etc.
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posted by
someone claiming to be chris ulrich
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Wed Aug 1 11:17 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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You don't need to worry about the 240 ever going away.
You can still find decent 140s and 122s out on the road, and
they haven't been made for a lot longer than the 240s. About
twice as many 240s were made than 140s, and the 140s haven't
been new for almost 30 years yet a quick search of recycler.com
and classifieds2000.com shows 7 140s of various types and huge
numbers of 122s.
If you count 740s and 940s, and if you count that 2 or 3 times
as many of these were made than 122s and 140s, there will be
10-30 of these cars available on a random week in 2035.
I'd advise anyone interested in these cars to buy a few now,
keep them in good condition, and drive them forever. Buy a few
so that if a tree jumps out in front of one or you accidently
park it shiny side down, you can pull out one of the spares.
chris
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posted by
someone claiming to be Richard Jewell
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Wed Aug 1 20:22 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Here in the UK I have noticed that 240's are becoming much scarcer in the last year or 2. I don't know where they are going - they certainly don't seem to be appearing in the breakers yards for the likes of me to stock up on bits.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Don Foster
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Tue Jul 31 22:54 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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The Number One bonehead engineering design is the blower motor.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Dave Stevens
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Wed Aug 1 11:03 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Don: The following is a rough translation of something I received from Sweden. May shed a little light on the subject. -Dave
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April 1, 1963 (Gothenburg)
Minutes of The 140 Series Ventillation System Project Meeting
Mgr: "Okay team, the first thing we gotta do is figure where to put the fan motor. After all, it's the central component of the whole ventillation system. "
Eng1: "How about in the trunk?"
Mgr: "But wagons won't have trunks. "
Eng2: "Or maybe under the glovebox?"
Mgr: "But what about legroom? "
Eng1: "You know, if they can make the ashtray a little smaller maybe it'll squeeze behind there."
Mgr: "Hmmm, I thought the fuel pump relay was going there, but maybe you're on to something. "
Eng2: "Then we could use two fan blades, one on each end so we can use the same fan in right and left hand drive models."
Eng1: "... and better weight distribution. You know how they're always going on about that.
Eng2: "... and maybe even hook it up to the bulb out sensor in case one blade ever breaks."
Mgr: "Hey, now we're talking! "
Eng1: "... and if we can get it first in the assembly process then the dash and body design teams will have to figure out how to attach everything to the fan instead of the other way around. Saves us a lot of effort. That'll make the fan the central component of the whole car. "
Mgr: "I agree. Good work, Eng1! I see a promotion to project manager of electrical systems in your future. Now let's hit the bar before it gets crowded."
Meeting adjourned
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posted by
someone claiming to be Don Foster
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Wed Aug 1 11:14 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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"Good work, Sven! I see a promotion to project manager of electrical systems......."
"......starting first thing next week with the 245 tailgate harness design, followed by materials choice for the engine harness! And after that, RELAYS!!"
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posted by
someone claiming to be bob
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Tue Jul 31 18:56 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Try the new batch of V-70's, S-60/80. Takes 2 computers to blow the fricken horn! the rear view mirror is a "control unit" You have to conect a pc and download software to make a replacement radie work properly. The window switch module in the door is a "control unit" Gone are the days when you can clean the contacts on a finnicky power window switch and revive it. Thank God for OLD VOLVO'S!!! I'll take the fireworks from the oil filter, and I will clean the oil off the motor mount, and I'm a master at tailgate wiring harnesses. Oh, and it will tow my boat.
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posted by
someone claiming to be B.C.
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Tue Jul 31 20:32 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Those old 240's float my boat, too. Good post.
Regards,
Bob
:>)
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posted by
someone claiming to be David Hunter
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Tue Jul 31 18:48 CST 2001 [ RELATED]
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Ever worked on a Ford or GM product????? You would then appreciate your Volvo more
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