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Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1988

I need advice on how to solve a problem with my 1988 760 w/B230FT, automatic; 190,000 miles -

For about 3 months, I have been trying to get this car back up to par. Stopping the oil leaks is my major concern. I replaced the turbo, performanced improved significantly - still rear main seal appears to be leaking at highway speeds. I replaced all three front seals. I have been determined to reduce crankcase pressure before tackling the rear main. I have cleaned all hoses, fittings, the breather box - still too much crankcase pressure.

Is it likely that rings are worn causing this problem? If the pcv system is not clogged, what other than worn rings can cause excessive crankcase pressure?

History:

Approx. 2 years, 50,000 miles ago I purchased this car with a warped head - overheated. I had the head re-worked and had good service from this car for the next 40,000 miles. (I change the oil and filter on 3,000 mile intervals.) Then, I gave this car to my daughter to drive. A few times, I have had to add 2 quarts of oil when I checked it. I'm guessing that the rings could have experienced excessive wear if it was starved for oil.

This car still has good power making me wonder how the rings can be worn causing excessive crankcase pressure.

Is it possible for a rebuilt head on a 140,000 mile block could accelerate ring wear?

The last time I did it; a dry compression test yeilded 150 pounds, + or - 10 pounds on each cylinder.

What can I do to be sure I need to re-ring this engine?

Thanks in advance for your help and advice.








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    Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1989

    Have just come across todays thread on crankcase pressure and perhaps I could add my 10 cents worth having just had the same problem. Even though I could blow down through the oil separator and get the oil filler cap to jiggle It was only after I replaced the separator completely with a new unit that I got satifactory reduction in crankcase pressure. While the separator was removed I also gently probe through the oil return pipe back into the pan with one of those flexible coiled wire drain uncloggers and found that it was somewhat constricted only allowing the separated oil to flow back into the pan slowly. Consequently on long runs the separator was slowly filling with oil and not draining quickly enough to effect adaquate pressure control. As to your query about blow by - have you ever experienced the dipstick being pushed out of its tube during the first few minutes of engine operation- if so then you might have excessive blow by due to bad rings. You might also try placing your thumb over the dipstick tube opening whilst forcibly holding down the oil filler cap to see what excess pressure is present - dont let the engine get too hot before you try this !! Both your car and mine are of similar vintage, and I take slight oil smoke from the dipstick tube and when the oil filler cap is removed as being par for the course on engines of their years.

    Running on sythetic oil is, they tell me, better for cleaner PCV systems particularly on turbo engines, though it will really show up your oil leaks and possibly surprise you with more!!









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      Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1989

      I have heard much of the "Jiggle" test, but never did find any info on how to do it.. Can someone explain the process? I'm trying to figure out why I am getting a backfire when I let off the gas, thought I might check all the avenues.

      Thanks!

      -Elliott








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        Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1989

        Just loosen the oil cap and let it sit loose on top of the inlet spout. With the car idling, look at the cap and note whether it is stationary, jiggling or dancing. Stationary is good. If the cap jiggles, you might be OK, especially with a plastic oil cap. Increases in throttle should make the cap should suck down tight. Dancing is bad for any type of cap. It's not a scientific test by any means, so you might want to measure the pressure to be sure.








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          Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1989

          Ahh, was wondering if it was just that simple. :)

          Thanks!

          -Elliott








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    Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1988

    Are you sure you have excessive crank case pressure? Is your only oil leak the rear seal? Perhaps you just need to replace the seal: they don't last forever...

    Pull the oil dipstick with the engine running. Are you getting blow by coming out of the tube? If not, I would think you 're okay.

    And you are right on about the flame trap. No such a creature should be in your turbo.

    Ed O'Briant








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      Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1988

      Ed, thanks for your input. I have not actually measured the crankcase pressure. It fails the jiggle test, but, it is the plastic cap. When the engine is warm and running, I do get some smoke out of the dipstick tube when I remove the dipstick.

      The reason I have hesitated replacing the real seal is I have read on the brickboard that I really need to solve the excessive crankcase pressure before I replace the seal or I'm just wasting my time.








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        Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1988

        Is it blow by or just normal oil/engine vapor? Do the vapors sort of waft out? With enough crank case pressure to push oil past good seals, you should have quite a bit of venting out the tube.

        I was at a Volvo shop earlier this year getting some A/C work done. Next to my car was an '86 744T with some leaky seals and a messy valve cover gasket and oil cap. The mechanic pulled the dipstick and the tube looked like a furnace stack! Car had good compression. Ended up being clogged hoses and fittings on the intake and a clogged oil separator.

        Note that the PCV system on these cars is not the best. The turbos, particularly, are prone to leaky oil caps and valve covers. I've read many accounts here, at Swedishbricks, and at Turbobricks with folks struggling to better that situation.

        Are you doing the job yourself?

        Ed








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          Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1988

          Ed, I'm not sure if the smoke from the dipstick tube is an indication of blow by or a clogged pcv system. I'm fairly confident that the pcv system is not clogged, but I am not confident enough to conclude that I need to re-ring the engine.

          Yes, I attempt to do all repairs on my Volvos.








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    Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1988

    Jeff check your flame trap,it is a filter that is in a hose that goes to the large air intake hose that goes from the air filter to the intake manifold,the hose that the trap sits in usually teed into the large hose right before it connects to the intake manifold.Follow that hose down under the intake manifold and it will arrive at a junction that has a tee with a smaller hose connected to it that goes to the intake manifold,pull the plastic juntion apart and shoud find a element that looks like a cigarette lighter core.If this filter becomes plugged then the crancase will develope high pressure internally and cause oil leaks.You can order a new one thru IPD(www.ipdusa.com)for around 8 dollars for the entire kit which includes a new trap,hoses ect.








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      Re: Too Much Crankcase Pressure? 700 1988

      Scott, thanks for your reply. I don't think a turbo has this flame trap. I have verified that the fitting in the intake manifold, the small hose that connects the fitting to the "Y" connecting the breather box with a larger hose that goes back to the turbo inlet pipe; are all clean.







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