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Whistlin' Dixie 200 85

My '85 244 and '86 245 (both b230f/m46) seem to be afflicted with the same problem. Best way to describe it is that they "whistle" at idle. If I increase the throttle, or under load, the "whistle" goes away (or is drowned out). I can't tell what part of the engine it's coming from on either car. Thought that maybe it was the WP, but can't imagine that I'd have two waterpumps going bad in two different cars at the same time. Sounds almost like a loose belt/pulley, or maybe an accesory bushing vibrating with the frequency of the engine?

Is this a normal noise for high mileage b230 engines to make? I've heard a few other 240/740 cars making this noise while idling in traffic/at lights, which means that it's normal and I'm worrying about nothing or that the cars all have the same thing wrong with them. :-)

Any ideas?

Thanks gentlemen...








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    Re: Whistlin' Dixie 200 85

    /// John has the right idea. There are plugs on these engines that will whistle with a small air leak. Go to a hardware store and buy stiff polubutyl and fexible vinyl to make an earphone. Spray carb cleaner on manifold gaskets etc. to locate leaks.

    If your belts are out of line from alternator mounting bushings being worn there may be a spray of worn belt material on the inner fender just even with the alternator pulley.

    Do not use anything except belt dressing on "V" belts. It is available in spray cans. It will get you by for a few days if the problem is worn, slipping, belts. Test the alternator bearing by releasing the belt pressure at the alternator adjustment. The alternator will stop and the bearing cannot make noise stopped. Before releasing the alternator test the belt at the alternator by pushing on one of the alternator cooling fan fins (with the engine stopped). If you can turn the alternator by hand the belt is problably bad.








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    Re: Whistlin' Dixie 200 85

    I would straight down onto the belts and see if they have a slight turn to them as they get near the alternator, the power sterring pump and the AC. I think it may be the bushings that mount these units to their respective brackets. The slight misailignment does cause teh belts to sqeel sometimes. With the weather changing colder (where I'm from anyway) it could cause these symptoms to crop up on both cars, same time.

    I have 158K on my '89 200, and I did my bushings 4 months ago. Before I did it, I would loosen the pivoting bolts and tweek the alternator straight then tighten it down...It works for a while.

    PS With 158K, I have not replaced my water pump or anything else and they are still running quiet. I'm guessing belt issues.

    Put some kitchen soap on the belts and see if the Whistle stops. that will eliminate bearing noise if it does.








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    Re: Whistlin' Dixie 200 85

    I have experienced the "whistle".....turned out to be the alternator. Either a rebuild with new bearings/brushes/etc or replacement with a new/rebuilt unit PLUS new rubber/poly accessory mounts seems to cure it. I know this was a "shotgun" cure...because I never actually knew the root cause within the alternator or mounts!! Try listening with a stick or spraying some silicone lube on the mounts.....








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    Re: Whistlin' Dixie 200 85

    I have an '87 240 (b230f/m47) with 142K miles. At start up in cold weather (has been in the 30's recently) it makes a whistling/whinning sound that increases frequency as the idle is increased. I'm suspecting the water pump just because I haven't replaced it yet (have owned the car over a year, 10K miles) but I don't know what a Volvo water pump sounds like when it's going bad. I know a Ford WP, which is a lot louder than what I have. After it warms up, the noise goes away. I also have a power steering belt squeal, but that is loud and recognizable. The strangest noise my car makes is at highway speed (65-80mph), and can be described as a high frequency metallic vibration. One of the nuts on the exhaust manifold is not completely tight, and the washer is able to move and vibrate. I consider most of the noises normal on a 13 year old car.








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      Re: Whistlin' Dixie 200 85

      You can also search for the source with a rubber hose (about 1/2" ID and 3' long). Put one end to your ear and scan around the engine with the other end till you find where the sound is loudest. Be carefull of moving and rotating parts.

      Another technique is to remove the belts and run the engine for a short time to see if the sound is still there.







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