posted by
someone claiming to be thekid
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Sun Nov 19 15:56 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Thank you so much for at least reading this letter, and I will be much more thankful if you can answer my question. How fast is a volvo 140? Any idea of it's 0-60 time? I ask because I found one that has a B 20E engine, short shift, ipd sways, and an IPD cam kit, for sale. I like the looks of this car and the price, but I need to know if it will be able to keep up with hondas and maybe acura's. Speed is very important to me because I am a high school student and those are the kinds of cars my friends drive, I don't want to be one of the crowd, I want to buy something unique, but I still want to be able to race. I hope you can understand my gibberish and help me out. Feel free to email me or reply on here.
Thanks
Will hockett
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posted by
someone claiming to be Will
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Tue Nov 21 19:37 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Well if you are looking for an older Volvo thats fast enough stand toe to toe with hondas, speaking with stock numbers, respectivly, I would suggest a 240 turbo intercooled...like mine :) Civics aren't fast (stock or slightly modified), the del sol is a different story as I recall the 0-60 is in the 6's...
Oh and you don't have to keep it stock. Old Volvos, in my opinion, make excellent sleepers. Anyway, this is a subject frowned upon by some of the members of the BB, and is probably in appropriate to discuss in a forum such as this one, so if you want to chat feel free to drop me a line @ twofourfour@yahoo.com
Best to you whichever way you decide to go,
(Although I'd think about what would happen in a Honda vs. Volvo wreck as well..)
Will
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posted by
someone claiming to be thekid
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Tue Nov 21 08:08 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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found these sites that help clear things up...some of the ones seam a little screwy,like ferrari's with higher 1/4's then an acura.
http://web.missouri.edu/~apcb20/times.html
www.car-stats.com
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posted by
someone claiming to be Anthony
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Mon Nov 20 23:41 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Well... I also drive a 144, although not the best car for top speed, but it sure can keep up with the traffic... (I live in bangkok...and people drive like psycos when the light goes green.) And it's also really nice cause cops here ignore my car... even at alcohol check points...hehe.
Very nice for cruising around... all my friends drive typical japanese cars too... but they all sit in my car... nice and roomy, pretty comfy too.
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posted by
someone claiming to be thekid
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Mon Nov 20 11:44 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Thanks, you have given me a lot to think about. I am not overly concerned with the speed of the car, most of the time, but when a friend pulls up to the line in a hatch back I like to have a little oomph. Although with what's been said I might have a change in heart.
As for Michael, it is a 2 dr. 1968 car. It's Red, so I'll have to watch out for all the blue cars on the road that will be going faster than me, and the cops.
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posted by
someone claiming to be chris ulrich
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Tue Nov 21 05:11 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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If you don't want a 1968 red 142, I'd be perfectly willing to buy
it, so long as it isn't too expensive. It is the third best car
volvo ever made (the best being the 1970 164 with a manual transmission
and the second being the 1968 145).
This car is nearly the classiest thing on the road; would you turn
your nose up at an old jaguar or porsche because it isn't as fast as
a modern honda?
And if you in california, I'm serious about buying the car....
chris
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posted by
someone claiming to be rehsper
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Mon Nov 20 12:53 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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Yeah, that 140 would be cooler than any rice-rocket hatchback. If it isn't as fast so what...It's different, distinctive. Just make sure it gets a loud exhaust and it'll sound faster than any of those little japanese cars that sound like. You know, the ones with the four inch tip on the one inch exhaust...
rehsper
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posted by
someone claiming to be Michael
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Mon Nov 20 09:20 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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The B20E engine is rated at 130HP in stock form according to www.volvoworld.com, and the IPD cam kit may add 10-20HP (just a guess), so it might be a pretty quick car. With the short shift and sway bars, it will definitely be fun to drive, and it will likely be one of a kind in a high school parking lot (one person from my high school drove a classic Volvo, a '65 544, out of over 2000 students). You may not win many drag races, but you won't get left behind either. The 140 you describe is probably more suited for road racing rather than drag racing. Is it a 2 door or 4 door? What year is the car? Someone can probably tell you what the car weighs based on that information. Don't forget to check for rust in the floor, trunk, and engine compartment.
Good luck.
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posted by
someone claiming to be chris ulrich
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Tue Nov 21 05:17 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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One problem with the B20 horsepower ratings is that they are
typically the inflated horsepower rating from the sixties that don't use
the same scale as modern HP ratings. Numbers I've seen for the
1975 B20F using the modern scale put it at almost 100 and I
doubt that the cam + compression boosts it all the way up to
130; I'd guess that a well tuned B20E makes more like 115 or so
in HP comparable to modern cars. Unless you go to 10,000 rpm...
What are the biggest HP numbers using the modern scale that
people have seen on a dyno from a NA B20 type motor?
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posted by
someone claiming to be Michael
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Tue Nov 21 09:11 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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According to www.volvoworld.com, they rate a '75 B20F at 98HP, 94 w/cat. Does that sound about right? The compression ratio of the B20F is 8.7:1, so wouldn't the B20E with a 10.5:1 compression ratio make noticably more HP?
The second photo in this gallery says it has a B20 w/192HP, which is the highest I've ever seen (whether or not it's true, I can't say):
http://www.volvonet.org/tpc/gal_140.html
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posted by
someone claiming to be Logan
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Sun Nov 19 23:52 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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I don't think I have ever seen the actual 0-60 times for the 140. Possibly would show up in an old Car And Driver test from the 70s. Try looking at the library, might be something there. I'd personally say the car won't be something to race Hondas with, they're built completely differently. But, having not been out of high school too long, I can say that your Honda driving friends will rapidly insist on taking your car every time you go somewhere as a group. Since I bought my 242 I haven't been able to ride anywhere in a friend's car. And if you're going for something different, the 140 will certainly be your ticket. Plus eventually you'll realize that racing isn't worth it, and want the Volvo even more. I realized it when a friend raced through a wheat field and into a concrete farm building.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Chevy
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Sun Nov 19 22:49 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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You want something quick, it ain't for you.
You want something that can handle almost any mod you throw at it and expect it outlast anything else out there, then you've found the right car.
I've always said to everyone (I'm still in highschool too) "If I had to drag race you, I wouldn't use my Volvo's (144, 3 244's), But if I had too race you around the world, I wouldn't use anything else."
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posted by
someone claiming to be Ryan Bennett
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Sun Nov 19 18:54 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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hmmmm.....
If you buy the 140 for speed, you bought it for the wrong reason. Volvos from that vintage aren't built to fly around corners. They're built to last a long time and keep you alive in a serious accident.
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posted by
someone claiming to be john l
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Sun Nov 19 16:19 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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I would just like to let you know that I see
highschool kids dead on the side of the road almost
everyday around these parts, from racing on city streets.
so please, whatever you drive, race it on a private track.
btw, paint it blue, they go faster ;-)
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posted by
someone claiming to be jim
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Sun Nov 19 16:00 CST 2000 [ RELATED]
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There will always be somebody quicker out there, but for the price of a newer Honda, you can learn all sorts of things about making dinosaurs run fast.
Walk to the beat of your own drummer.
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