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Glove Box Lock Retainer Spring 200 1981

Hello,
I removed my glove box latch to clean and lube it. I removed the spring retainer by turning it 1/4 turn and it came right off. To reinstall the retainer you have to press it flat and turn it again. It's a thin spring with a curvature. Problem is when pressed flat I can't get a hold of it to turn it! Help, I'm out of ideas. Has anybody been here before me?








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    Glove Box Lock Retainer Spring 200 1981

    John, did you get this yet? Sorry to be so late looking, but I've been "here" before several times as is obvious from the pics I've saved, but don't recall unusual difficulty with the retainer spring for the latch.



    If you're still unsuccessful, I'm pretty sure I have a spare glovebox around I can check out and get back to you, only if you let me know first.


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    Art Benstein near Baltimore

    "When they tell me I'm too old to do something, I attempt it immediately." -Pablo Picasso








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        Household plumbing bits 200 1981

        Your photography puts mine to shame.

        I struggled for a minute, maybe two using a knee to put pressure on the front of the latch while compressing the retainer spring with both thumbs before considering the effect on my arthritic hands. Here's what I came up with instead:



        The copper coupling fit nicely to keep the latch tongue out of the way, but in retrospect this may not have been absolutely necessary.





        I could compress the spring into the groove but getting it to rotate wasn't easy.



        Adding this O-ring helped grip and turn the spring enough to finish off with whatever tool was used to remove it.



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        Art Benstein near Baltimore

        Life is like a roll of toilet paper.
        The closer you get to the end the faster it goes.








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          Household plumbing bits 200 1981

          Thanks Art. Looks like the sched 40 is the way to go. I'll have to pick some up. After staring at your images for a while I'm wondering if I could attach some metal tabs to the outside of the tubing that are just long enough to catch the edges of the retainer.








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            Household plumbing bits 200 1981

            When I first started looking for something to take the place of my thumbs, I imagined a section of an old radiator hose, but couldn't put my hands on one with the correct inside diameter. Has to be something around the home without making a trip to the hardware store. Maybe the core from a roll of tape...
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            Art Benstein near Baltimore

            "To do is to be." - Descartes
            "To be is to do." - Sartre
            "Do be do be do." - Sinatra








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              Household plumbing bits 200 1981

              Tubing is the answer Art!
              The retainer turned so easily I though the tool didn't work.








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                Tubing Tools 200 1981

                Good choice. That looks like the deep socket my daughter bought for me to fit the nut on the steering wheel.

                Here's another use of tubing to save achy fingers reaching into tight spots for routine tire pressure checks.


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                Art Benstein near Baltimore

                Have you ever noticed? Anybody going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac.








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      Glove Box Lock Retainer Spring 200 1981

      Thanks Art. All my glove box parts seem in good order. I just can't get that "circular" spring back on.








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        Glove Box Lock Retainer Spring 200 1981

        Yes, it all looks in order to me. I'll revisit this tomorrow hands on, because my recollection only tells me to push and twist with two thumbs, something I'm sure you've done instinctively.
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        Art Benstein near Baltimore

        People will forget what you said. They will forget what you did. But they will never forget how you made them feel.








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    Glove Box Lock Retainer Spring 200 1981

    Hi,

    I do not quite understand the quarter tun thing you are speaking of so I thought maybe the 1981 box has a different lock than my 1984 and beyond cars do.

    So, I took a look at my 1978 as it has a push in button type. Totally different than later glove boxes.
    It’s about one half inch in diameter in the front. You don’t turn any knob.
    It is held in by a clip that has a little tiny tab sticking up and out from its own tiny slot.
    It looks to me it only locks into its only and only position.

    I have never had it out so I don’t even know how to remove that mechanism.
    As old as it is, I don’t want to mess with it either.
    It might turn out to be that angry dog that’s sleeping.
    I ask why did you take it out?
    It should have been accessible for a spritz of something, if needed be, to from the latch end.

    The others I have see use a clip as you describe but it does not turn either.
    It comes off easily as you just slide it outwards from two grooves on the side of the lock cylinder.
    The clip should be long enough to engage the side grooves and by continuing to push the clip its should compress down under the grooves.

    There is no turning of the clip. The cylinders has a flat or two that engages the door so the lock doesn’t turn either.

    The rubber ring rots off the knob but if you don’t mind the ridiculous price for a new rubber they can be purchased.
    Personally without the rubber you can get your fingers in deeper to grab the knob but the rubber does seen to make the lock more luxurious looking.

    The 1978 only took one finger to open it in the first place! The mechanism is a lot smaller so it doesn’t hit thing inside either.

    On the even newer boxes it’s not uncommon for the latch to break it’s on plastic holding bar above the lock.

    So bingo!
    At first it gets more loose to where it does not always catch or it can let the door rattle.
    I have had to replace it with a metal plate to give it something more substantial on one of my cars.
    I’m afraid to go inspect the others and see that disappointment coming.
    You got hate having to drop the front door down to get at the two bottom screws out too, so you can remove entire box.

    On my 1993 I removed the whole dash, this spring, to replace a fan motor and service the wiper shafts so I know where the first frustration can start.
    But luckily the 1993 doesn’t have those screws anymore.

    The hinge arms have tab that are a bear to undo on the all the boxes.
    You have to release the clips, on their right sides, with something really thin but curled on the very end to depress the tabs. Of course it’s plastic down in there and darn hard to see them!

    I wish I could see the type latch you have to know the difference.

    Just think creatively!

    Phil







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