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1992 245 Non Start Occasional Sputters After Washing Cleaning Engine and Bay 200

Hi Everyone!

I've gone from the most reliable car (with a cam seal leak) to a clean car that won't start!

I cleaned the engine and bay with a mild cleaner then hosed it down. I was careful to not get any direct spray near the distributer and coil. Now I crank and crank with an occasional half attempt to sputter, and a sputter or two when I stop cranking.

I ran the onboard diagnostic and it says everything is good. All the electrical seems to be working correctly. I smell fuel after cranking. I pulled plug #1 and there is spark.

Any ideas where to check? Crank sensor?

Thanks in advance!








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    1992 245 Non Start Occasional Sputters After Washing Cleaning Engine and Bay 200

    The poster who suggested putting dielectric (non-conducting) grease in the connections is correct. If you take apart many connectors on a new car, you are likely to see grease.

    When I had some mysterious electrical issues with our '90 744 TI, I did one connector each week - that way if something happened I knew what to check.

    Clean the connectors as much as you can, and if you have any trouble, look inside each male and female connector to see if any pins have been pushed into the connector.

    The old gag is - do not put anything in your ears except for your elbows!

    I never use a washdown on an engine.

    I clean my engine with an old sock - I use a spray bottle of kerosine for metal parts and a spray bottle of soapy water on rubber or plastic parts, drying everything thoroughly. If you wear a nitrile glove, you can turn the sock inside out when it gets too dirty.








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    1992 245 Non Start Occasional Sputters After Washing Cleaning Engine and Bay 200

    The original WD40 had no lubricant in it - despite the conventional wisdom that WD40 is a lubricant.

    Now some has lubricant in it , hence the attraction of dirt.

    I have some of each.

    Spray a bit on a window - WD40 with lubricant will leave a residue.

    Spraying WD40 with lubricant to dispel water will possibly make matters worse as the lubricant residue is worse than water that dries off.








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    1992 245 Non Start Occasional Sputters After Washing Cleaning Engine and Bay 200

    SOLVED:

    I had checked all wire connections, and the distributer was dry and clean inside. I then put a fan in the bay and ran it all afternoon, got nothing. Forgot about it and just tried again. Fired up and ran completely smooth. Don't know what was causing it, but if it happens to you, drying it out for awhile might work.








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      1992 245 Non Start Occasional Sputters After Washing Cleaning Engine and Bay 200

      This where WD-40 can do the job it was designed for. Spray down the dizzy cap and wires to get rid of any residual moisture. In your case it just dried itself out but some WD won't do any harm especially if where you are has damp misty mornings. The water mist spray when it is dark is a good trick and can be very revealing. You can get quite a firework display even when there appears to be no problems. WD can go a long way in curing that.








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        1992 245 Non Start Occasional Sputters After Washing Cleaning Engine and Bay 200

        WD -> Water Displacement, designed for a wet job like this, but it does leave a slight oily residue that will tend to attract dirt.

        To the OP, for decades I have been sealing all under hood electrical connectors with dielectric grease (aka. ignition lubricant) as was once recommended in a Volvo routine maintenance TSB. I often rinse under the hood and around the engine, sometimes even a soap and water wash. Way back I used to avoid water getting anywhere near ignition components, especially the dizzie, lest I have difficulty starting and a few minutes of hiccups even if I let it dry for a few minutes. Now that I keep things waterproofed, I can spray water almost anywhere under the hood and restart right away with rarely even a hiccup.

        The deal is to open up all main connectors (AMM, TPS, IAC, injectors, distrib, plugs, coil, etc.), repacking the female side of the connector with grease, also peeling back the rubber boots to wipe a little underneath the edge to seal the connectors. The only connector listed to avoid was the O2 sensor connector on the firewall, where an anti-oxidant paste is preferred. The low voltage signal from the CPS is another connector I avoid packing, but do grease the boot. The side mounted distributors can still have water splash up under the cap, so that's still an area to avoid spraying directly. The rear cam mount distributors do not have that problem.
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        Dave -still with 940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








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      1992 245 Non Start Occasional Sputters After Washing Cleaning Engine and Bay 200

      Hi,
      Well now that’s a rather common problem. (:-)

      I don’t remember seeing you say if you have new ignition components but soapy surfactants make water become a better solvent by breaking down surface tension.
      Combine with dirt that may have some salts in it, then you have a prime conductor for high voltage leakage. The Wattage to heat the plugs drops off so the spark is weaker.
      High voltages are surprisingly agile and jump easily unseen as they are tiny paths.


      Be suspicious of the main ignition wire off the coil to the distributor.
      The reason I say this is because in lots of cases you buy a wire set it does not come with that wire included.
      Especially if the people before you shopped by price only. No telling how old it can be and it does four times the duty of only one at a time.

      You might want to do an under the hood nightfall test with a spray bottle of a tap water mist.

      Was the engine warm when you washed it?
      Some engine cleaners want that environment to remove warmer oil. It’s advertised to call it to be like steaming cleaning without high pressure.
      Sounds nice but then now, that will make vapors. They love that travel to a cooler place as that’s what the exceeds energy does.
      More Importantly it can drift up under a distributor cap that looked to stay dry or protected but not from below.

      Phil







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